Originally posted by leonidasHe choped the jugular vein that's on the front onf the neck, by chopping him in the back of the neck. . .
the blow severed his jugular somehow,
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And he did this when Shingen's attack to the front of the neck failed to cause him to pass out due to blood loss.
Originally posted by leonidasAnd I think it was PIS, that's like gouging someone's eyes out by attacking the back of the head.
<<He choped the jugular vein that's on the front onf the neck, by chopping him in the back of the neck. . .>>yeah, that confused me too . . .
bottom line is this though - conan caused brain damage by chopping his neck like he did.
Originally posted by leonidas
now what exactly happened to wolvie's neck when the indestructible blade hit it is a bit puzzling. somehow his neck was injured to the extent that oxygen did not reach logan's brain for a long time and so when he awoke he was an 'animal'. the blow severed his jugular somehow, so i suppose that's why he didn't get o2 to his brain. after a long while (looks like at least several hours in the book) his jugular heals but his brain damage does not. does that mean he can't heal brain damage? don't know, but he remains an animal throughout the whole issue. while in berserker he severs conan's hand and would likely have been able to finish him off had the battle continued.for what it's worth, there's the pics. make inferences at will.
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his healing factor can heal brain damage..this was best demonstrated by sabretooth who's now been stabbed through the brain on 2 occasions...the first time it reverted him into something comparible to a dog in behavior but he eventually healed, the second time he was completely uneffected...the same way wolverine was uneffected when an arrow was shot through is ears and into his brain..so yea..he can heal brain damage, just takes time....well if wolverine was berserker in one scene and not in another than that just goes to show you guys at his best, wolvie wins....
again i feel the need to stress that wolverine doesnt heal instantaneuosly when he receives massive truama, only superficial wounds. in ultimate x-men when he and sabretooth was fighting after they fell off the cliff it took a while for him to recover, later on in the series when proteus was going on a rampage, after wolvie had gotten run over by that big rig it took a few mins well for him to get back up, and even later in the series when he tried to kill cyclops, after scott had tracked him to canada to reinvite him to join the xmen he zapped him first and it took a few minutes for him to regain consciouness. etc.. so there is no way you can tell me that him gettin a fat axe or sword lodged in his chest isnt gonna make him scream like amanda and hit the ground, twisting in pain which would leave him open for more attacks. and who said anything about breaking his bones? thats not wat this is about. i think perhaps you all are confusing a fight to win with a fight to the death. of course logans healing wound prevent him from dying ...and thats the only reason he would survive.
Has any of you been reading Conan lately? this guy regulalry faces off against mythical blood thirsty beasts that are three times his size and strentgh with huge clunky weapons and comes out on top, and when he battles regualr humans its dozens at a time....which wolverine does too, but when he takes on a gang its usually ppl who cant fight or who are really bad shots, plus his nice bite sized blades that slip out of his knuckles that never falls out of his hand gives him a killer advantage.
you know then again we might be talking about two differnt conans. you all are probably thinking about the campy one from marvel comics, where he was just a dark haired ka-zar. im talking about both the bad ass orignal(robert E howards) and the current dark horse series. wolverine may be good at taking down fool's who cant fight but lets see how well he does against a frost giant, after he's been wandering around in the snow for a few days, tired from a recent battle
Originally posted by manjaro
there is no way you can tell me that him gettin a fat axe or sword lodged in his chest isnt gonna make him scream like amanda and hit the ground, twisting in pain
You mean like when he got run through with a sowrd, pulled the sowrd all the way into him to pull himself closer to his opponent and skewer his opponent. . .
Yeah, actually I can tell you that Wolverine has a higher pain threshold than you give him credit for.
Originally posted by manjaro
again i feel the need to stress that wolverine doesnt heal instantaneuosly when he receives massive truama, only superficial wounds. in ultimate x-men when he and sabretooth was fighting after they fell off the cliff it took a while for him to recover, later on in the series when proteus was going on a rampage, after wolvie had gotten run over by that big rig it took a few mins well for him to get back up, and even later in the series when he tried to kill cyclops, after scott had tracked him to canada to reinvite him to join the xmen he zapped him first and it took a few minutes for him to regain consciouness. etc.. so there is no way you can tell me that him gettin a fat axe or sword lodged in his chest isnt gonna make him scream like amanda and hit the ground, twisting in pain which would leave him open for more attacks. and who said anything about breaking his bones? thats not wat this is about. i think perhaps you all are confusing a fight to win with a fight to the death. of course logans healing wound prevent him from dying ...and thats the only reason he would survive.Has any of you been reading Conan lately? this guy regulalry faces off against mythical blood thirsty beasts that are three times his size and strentgh with huge clunky weapons and comes out on top, and when he battles regualr humans its dozens at a time....which wolverine does too, but when he takes on a gang its usually ppl who cant fight or who are really bad shots, plus his nice bite sized blades that slip out of his knuckles that never falls out of his hand gives him a killer advantage.
you know then again we might be talking about two differnt conans. you all are probably thinking about the campy one from marvel comics, where he was just a dark haired ka-zar. im talking about both the bad ass orignal(robert E howards) and the current dark horse series. wolverine may be good at taking down fool's who cant fight but lets see how well he does against a frost giant, after he's been wandering around in the snow for a few days, tired from a recent battle
wolverine fights off HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of hand ninjas at one time..... these guys are described as one being equally effective to 12 well trained swat team members....wolverine also took on multitudes of super villains in wolverine 16 and was laying them out left anf right, he took on over 100 well armed pirates and didn't break a sweat, he fought of an entire centurian army, armed with high grade armor, gas, swords, and lazors, AND he was winning... THEN he did it again.....you are seriously not giving wolverine credit where credit is due....first with his pain tolerance and now with his enemies.....conan fights bloodthrsty beasts...that's great an all but..................
Apparently I made a mistake. I thought there was something mentioned to be special about the blade earlier in the issue.
The weird thing is that you can't see the injury when Wolverine is on his back or even any blood on his throat. Did the intermediate pages between round 1 and round 2 say anything about his recovery.