Originally posted by ska57
The parachute in this illustration represents becoming a Christian. While some may think that having Jesus in their life will make everything better and take all your problems away, make your life "better", they do so with that in mind. But Jesus said the exact opposite and that you will undergo trials, tribulations, tests and all men will hate you because of Him (the coffee represented the trials in life). So some people loose their religion because of this. The man that put on the parachute because he knew it would save his life looked beyond his short time on the plane (our years on this world) and stayed focused on the jump (life beyond death, heaven).
Originally posted by ska57excellent, im very impressed bro.
"If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and are not true sons."God did have compassion on humans. We deserve hell, all of us, so God sent Christ to take our place. His death bridged the gap for those who believe in Him, there in no seperation, if we would only have faith and cross that gap, we are saved from eternity in hell and spend eternity in heaven with God.
I heard a sermon about this. Here's the illustration he used: There was a man on a plane and the flight attendant gave him a parachute. The man asked why she gave him the parachute and she said "To make the flight more enjoyable." So the man gladly wore the parachute. But, others on the plane started to make fun of him and told him how stupid he looked in that parachute. Then the flight attendant spilled some hot coffee on the man so he immediatly took the parachute off because it was not making his flight better.
Now there was another man on that flight, the flight attendant told him to put on a parachute and when the man asked why the attendant said "To save your life when the plane starts to go down and you jump 30,000 feet in the air." So the man gladly put on the parachute. Others started to make fun of him and told him how stupid he looked in that parachute. But he didn't care; this parachute will save his life. Then the flight attendant spilled some hot coffee on the man, but he didn't take off the steaming coffee stained parachute, because he knew he needed it to save him from the upcoming 30,000 foot jump.
So eventually the plane experienced some electrical failure causing all the engines to stop, the plane was going to crash. The man with the parachute jumps out of the plane and is saved, while the other man that took off the parachute could not and died with all the others on the plane that did not have a parachute. (I hope I spelled 'parachute' right)The parachute in this illustration represents becoming a Christian. While some may think that having Jesus in their life will make everything better and take all your problems away, make your life "better", they do so with that in mind. But Jesus said the exact opposite and that you will undergo trials, tribulations, tests and all men will hate you because of Him (the coffee represented the trials in life). So some people loose their religion because of this. The man that put on the parachute because he knew it would save his life looked beyond his short time on the plane (our years on this world) and stayed focused on the jump (life beyond death, heaven).
god test us to test our faith. that is really the easiest way to put it.
If you belived in god and had great faith in him, and he gave you evrything you ever wanted because you believed in him. and then in one breif moment took it all away from you brutally and quickly, would you still belive in him then, or would you forsake him in you ur blind belief that he has forsaken you?
and one of you asked why you had lived such a hellish life? where did you get that misconception. if you think god is giving you hell... you are truly lost. life is isnt all bout material possesion and getting what you want when you want it. (im not saying thats how you define a hellish life)
and some misguided people seem to think if they pray to god they'll get what they want. and if they dont get it, then oh well he must not exist.
god answers prayers, but sometimes the answer is "no"
and god does give. jus cuz he dosent give right away dosent mean he wont give at all.
the world says "see it to belive it" but god says "believe it to see it"
its all about faith guys. god really dosent ask much. and he only test the ones who belive in him. dont blame a "hellish life" on him. god dosent conrtol ur life, you do.
if you had the power to do anything, why would you share or give to anyone who didnt belive in you?
Well, AP that really doesn' hold, here is why...
Why do Teachers constanly apply tests to their students? Teachers already know the answers to the questions, so why test them? Simple, the teachers want their students to learn and understand. Only through education can a student really comprehend things.
Apply all that above to the all knowing being which is God. If God is testing us, is because he/she/it wants us to learn and understand. Whatever might be that God wants us to learn...the testing is necessary. At least that is one way I can see reason behind God's tests.
Why do Teachers constanly apply tests to their students? Teachers already know the answers to the questions, so why test them? Simple, the teachers want their students to learn and understand. Only through education can a student really comprehend thingsdifference is that student seem to graduate from school and testings
Originally posted by WindDancer
Well, AP that really doesn' hold, here is why...Why do Teachers constanly apply tests to their students? Teachers already know the answers to the questions, so why test them? Simple, the teachers want their students to learn and understand. Only through education can a student really comprehend things.
Apply all that above to the all knowing being which is God. If God is testing us, is because he/she/it wants us to learn and understand. Whatever might be that God wants us to learn...the testing is necessary. At least that is one way I can see reason behind God's tests.
The teacher may already know all of the answers to the questions, but the test is not determine what the teacher knows but what the students have learned.
An all-knowing God would not have to test humans to determine what they have learned because He would already know.
Originally posted by Jack of Clubs
if you had the power to do anything, why would you share or give to anyone who didnt belive in you?
If I were all powerful...I would know their limitations and thus ask nothing of them....only help them to be what they already are...a great creation...made in my image....
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The teacher may already know all of the answers to the questions, but the test is not determine what the teacher knows but what the students have learned.An all-knowing God would not have to test humans to determine what they have learned because He would already know.
That's exactly my point. The ultimate goal is that we must learn. Now, what is more important for an individual? The reasons why an all-knowing God test us? or What you will learn from those tests? If you chose the former you're trying to understand God's logic (good luck with that) and you consider that to be more important. If you chose the latter then you're satisfied with what you will learn from the tests. And quite simply the latter is more important for an individual.
Originally posted by WindDancer
I see it more as a daily evaluation. 😉
I believe that God never tests us. The tests that we are talking about are all in our heads, it is cause and effect, and the challenges we face everyday is just living. Also, to say that God does not test us, is not to say the God doesn't care. The blood in your body faces tests and challenges every day, do you expose yourself to certain diseases to test your blood?