Malak vs The Exile

I don't think this has been done, didn't find it on the search engine anyway. So I think this could be an even match. Some people might just say that Kreia was better than Malak and The Exile beated her so it's already settled. But just because a can beat b doesent mean he can beat c. For example Malak is a better lightsaber combatant than Kreia. I am leaning slightly to the Exile though.

I am not...

If the Exile beat Kreia it was because he is better with a lightsaber and although he is good and the disciple describes his movements as a song he was not ever described as Malak was by others. Never once in his entire life, the Exile was not as good with a lightsaber as Malak was nor with the force during his time with Revan.

After that I think he only got weaker then yes he regained his connection to the force but he got it threw other people, I don't know if he really became more powerful perhaps smarter but his lightsaber skills haven't improved that much. If you can trust the game he hasn't mastered any style just touched the basics of them all. Malak is going to be far more advanced with the style he has used and he does have more experience then the Exile does because he also fought in the Jedi Civil War.

I doubt that the Exile has a greater control over the force and even if he does its not going to be that much greater so it won't be enough to defeat Malak with anyways.

Yes absolutly true. During the Mandalorian wars I don't have a clue what kind of style the Exile used but during the game he uses many. The masters tell him that he is a quick learner, mabey because he had used those forms before? Mabey because....because he is a quick learner. Anyway Malak beats the Exile in lightsaber combat but I doubt in force powers, the Exile has stolen power from all that he has killed and he has become alot stronger than he was before. But mabey Malaks stronger, I don't know but I doubt it.

Force powers alone won't make him win this fight.

No of course not but he's not defenceless with a lightsaber, he is good enough to beat 3 floating lightsabers, and he need to hit the handle of them to destroy them which is harder than to hit a person behind them. But that's no proof he can beat Malak, that's just proof that he can fight with a saber if he wants too, and he can fight good.

I'm not saying he is a bad fighter I just don't think he is as good a fighter as Malak is. And I don't think he is superior in the force by a lot if at all.

i think fishy is right

Yes and I don't think Malak is superior with lightsaber by alot either, The Exile did beat the jedi masters (Dark side) in duels using mostly his lightsaber so I bet he could at least hold Malak off and use force powers. But hey it's starting to sound like I'm on the Exiles side which I'm not, I'm on neither, I just want people to discuss this fight. I'm just saying I don't think beating him in a lightsaber duel would be easy, even for Malak.

It won't be easy, but Malak defeated those Masters too, or he could have beaten them all if he needed too. Also you have to remember that when the Exile destroyed them he was borrowing powers from other people, he did not use his own powers so that doesn't make him as powerful as when he would have done it alone. The real question is however if the Exile kept the powers he borrowed when he regained his connection with the force, and if not then when did this fight take place?

Yeah your right, in this battle I'm thinking of the Exile using his borrowed powers, like you play him in the game. Without them though he wouldent be much more than average.

The exile doesn't canonically use many lightsaber styles; he is merely allowed to use them just as he is allowed to use any and all force powers due to game mechanics and marketting.

You really can't use the Exile in threads because there is no canonically correct version of him.

As of yet, exactly. You can only say for certain that the Exile caused the death of Kreia, Sion, and Nihilus.

Kreia is his only canon kill.

True...

How is Kreia his only canon kill?

Because Sion basically let himself die and Nihilus was triple teamed.

The Exile had already defeated Sion several times. Nihilus was triple teamed, but Visas ins't very good. Canderous did a lot against Nihilus, but Nihilus is no pushover. Even with help, it's still an impressive kill.

And couldn't win.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
The Exile had already defeated Sion several times. Nihilus was triple teamed, but Visas ins't very good. Canderous did a lot against Nihilus, but Nihilus is no pushover. Even with help, it's still an impressive kill.

Define defeat in this instance, since the Exile was urged to flee their first encounter, and since Sion was never defeated BY WEAPON in the final battle, we can assume the Exile defeated only his will, correct?

Also, you're making the assumption that Visas is weak. That's not verifiable. What we can infer though, is that Visas may have either been very ineffective against Nihilus because of her bond and because she was afraid of him, or she fought tooth and nail and saved the Exile. She may have given her life in the canonical version, as can happen in game. And to assume that Canderous did anything (When Nihilus Force froze the guy easily) is unfounded at this point.