*["Marchello are you a preacher or something?]
***ALL true Christians are preachers. I believe in Jesus Christ and He is precious to me as a believer...He is my Saviour and Lord and I owe Him EVERYTHING...my life...hope of the RESURRECTION and ALLEGIANCE in this sinful world. Too, I know of a certainty that if things go on as they are now in this country and the world that I may have to give my life for Him...but what of it...for He gave up His life FOR ME.
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
[B]*["Yet even Jesus got angry once..."]***The is nothing wrong in being angry...read about God's ANGER in [Numbers 25:4;32:14;Deuteronomy 29:20;Judges 2:14,20;3:8;10:7;2 Kings 24:20;Jeremiah 4:8;12:13;51:45].
Your ALLEGATION that Jesus might have SINNED because He became ANGRY is specious at best...for the buying and selling of animals in the Temple courts [i.e., Court of the Gentiles] was RATIONALIZED as a CONVENIENCE for the pilgrims coming into Jerusalem. But ABUSES developed, and the pilgrim traffic became a major source of INCOME for the city. With MONEY to be made, the WORSHIP easily became CORRUPTED. The money changers were another CONVENIENCE for the pilgrims...Temple dues had to be paid in the ACCEPTABLE Tyrian
coinage...and a HIGH percentage was charged for CHANGING coins.
So crime is alright, sinning is alright as long as you can justify it? As long as you are doing so against sinners? That would basically mean you are justifying the crusade, the inquisition and every religious war ever... Jesus would have loved that.
Originally posted by Fishy
So crime is alright, sinning is alright as long as you can justify it? As long as you are doing so against sinners? That would basically mean you are justifying the crusade, the inquisition and every religious war ever... Jesus would have loved that.
***NOTHING you have said is true and you KNOW it. Too, I answered your question at GREAT LENGTH...so DEAL WITH IT.
Marchello
Originally posted by MarchelloJust curious, what church do you go to....What denomination are you?
*["Marchello are you a preacher or something?]***ALL true Christians are preachers. I believe in Jesus Christ and He is precious to me as a believer...He is my Saviour and Lord and I owe Him EVERYTHING...my life...hope of the RESURRECTION and ALLEGIANCE in this sinful world. Too, I know of a certainty that if things go on as they are now in this country and the world that I may have to give my life for Him...but what of it...for He gave up His life FOR ME.
Marchello
Originally posted by debbiejo
Ohhhhh I went to one of those............They programmed you good didn't they.........I'm sorry, but they do that there at those type churches.......... π
***No church "programs" me...I have left a number of churches that have deviated from the Scriptures. I am well-versed in my faith and I know sound doctrine when I read it in the Scriptures. The Scriptures are the ONLY resource that I adhere to...and I will NOT...I repeat to you [for you are hard of hearing] that NO church or it's clergy dictates to me what I shall believe.
The "local" church is a "tent of meeting" place of LIKE-MINDED believers in the Lord Jesus Christ...and we share in the fellowship of the Lord...it is our "haven of rest." If we have a pastor who is TRUE to the Scriptures we then can have a wonderful meeting. However, if the pastor is Liberal and deviates from what is written...then I am out of there. Very FEW churches today preach the Word of God...and the APOSTASY that was foretold in [1 Timothy 4:1-5] is running rampant in the churches TODAY...it's called ECUMENISM.
I am sorry that you are not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ...for it is you who has been "programmed" by the god of this world [Satan]. If you are NOT a believer in Jesus Christ...you ARE a follower of Satan...He is YOUR god. Jesus said, "He that is NOT with me is AGAINST me; and he that gathereth NOT with me scattereth abroad" [Matthew 12:30].
Marchello
Originally posted by debbiejo
DOCTRINE..........That's it right there. You are following a doctrine, not scripture alone.
***You have it turned around...we have doctrine because we have Scripture. Doctrine is derived FROM Scripture...but Scripture is NOT derived FROM doctrine. The doctrines of the Church are valid because the Scriptures from which they are derived are INSPIRED of God: "All SCRIPTURE is GIVEN by INSPIRATION of God, and is PROFITABLE for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION in RIGHTEOUSNESS: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" [2 Timothy 3:16,17].
The Bible came from God through the men who wrote it [2 Peter 1:21]. God superintended these human authors so that, using their individual personalities, they composed and recorded without error God's Word to man. Jesus Christ attested to the fact that INSPIRATION extends to the very words [Matthew 5:18;John 10:35].
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
***No church "programs" me...I have left a number of churches that have deviated from the Scriptures. I am well-versed in my faith and I know sound doctrine when I read it in the Scriptures. The Scriptures are the ONLY resource that I adhere to...and I will NOT...I repeat to you [for you are hard of hearing] that NO church or it's clergy dictates to me what I shall believe.Marchello
if you only use the scriptures to guide you then you have been programed even the simplest animal can think for itself
your a computer that spouts out religous doctrine and anger nothing more
Originally posted by kmcdude
like real bad π Do you think it will hurt? try and close your eyes and think about the world with u not there........it is freaky π I am scared how i'm gunna die,when I'm gunna die,and what happens when I die π
You can't exactly avoid the inevitable. Sure, it's a scary thing' death, but one can't go around thinking of nothing but just that. That's what all of this great shit in life was invented for, to let you have a good time. Go with the expression "Live each day like it's your last", or something like that. When I was in 3rd grade I actually began crying in CCD because I was thinking about death and how scared I was of it. No one knows how they will die, or when, or anything like that, but there's not really anything you can do about it.
Here, I began thinking back about my Psychology class last semester, and we discussed the 5 staged of death. Of course no one that will die suddenly can experience these, but maybe someone who finds out they have uncurable cancer or a disease or something.
STAGES OF DEATH AND DYING
Dying is a process, the end point of which is death. In this sense dying is a terminal part of living. The coping responses during this particular segment of life are shaped by previous experiences with death, as well as by cultural attitudes and beliefs. Kubler-Ross (1969) postulates five stages that many dying patients pass through from the time they first become aware of their fatal prognosis to their actual death:
1. Denial
On being told that one is dying, there is an initial reaction of shock. The patient may appear dazed at first and may then refuse to believe the diagnosis or deny that anything is wrong. Some patients never pass beyond this stage and may go from doctor to doctor until they find one who supports their position.
2. Anger
Patients become frustrated, irritable and angry that they are sick. A common response is,Γ’β¬Β Why me? Γ’β¬Β They may become angry at God, their fate, a friend, or a family member. The anger may be displaced onto the hospital staff or the doctors who are blamed for the illness.
3. Bargaining
The patient may attempt to negotiate with physicians, friends or even God, that in return for a cure, the person will fulfill one or many promises, such as giving to charity or reaffirm an earlier faith in God.
4. Depression
The patient shows clinical signs of depression- withdrawal, psychomotor retardation, sleep disturbances, hopelessness and possibly suicidal ideation. The depression may be a reaction to the effects of the illness on his or her life or it may be in anticipation of the approaching death.
5. Acceptance
The patient realizes that death is inevitable and accepts the universality of the experience. Under ideal circumstances, the patient is courageous and is able to talk about his or her death as he or she faces the unknown. People with strong religious beliefs and those who are convinced of a life after death can find comfort in these beliefs (Zisook & Downs, 1989).
Originally posted by MarchelloBaptist Doctrine or Presbyterian, Calvin, Pentecostal, Methodists, Catholics, SDA, NNWC, SC, Independent, Baptist, Novereigen, Bible, Reformed, Church of Christ, Church of God, Community, Nazarene, Episcopal, Full Gospel, Independent, JWS, Free will, Sovereign Grace, Charismatic, Missionary Alliance, Jesus Christ, Community, Evangelistic, Interdenominational, Holiness, Synod, Orthodox, Social Brethren, Spiritual, Swedenborgian, Unitarian, Universal......Which doctrine is correct?
***You have it turned around...we have doctrine because we have Scripture. Doctrine is derived FROM Scripture...but Scripture is NOT derived FROM doctrine. The doctrines of the Church are valid because the Scriptures from which they are derived are INSPIRED of God: "All SCRIPTURE is GIVEN by INSPIRATION of God, and is PROFITABLE for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION in RIGHTEOUSNESS: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" [2 Timothy 3:16,17].The Bible came from God through the men who wrote it [2 Peter 1:21]. God superintended these human authors so that, using their individual personalities, they composed and recorded without error God's Word to man. Jesus Christ attested to the fact that INSPIRATION extends to the very words [Matthew 5:18;John 10:35].
Marchello
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
if you only use the scriptures to guide you then you have been programed even the simplest animal can think for itselfyour a computer that spouts out religous doctrine and anger nothing more
***Animals do not have the capacity to think...and it appears from your posting that YOU are the one that is "spewing" ANGER.
The truth of the matter is that you do NOT like to hear what I am QUOTING from the Scriptures...because what I am quoting CUTS your "guts" out like a KNIFE...and REVEALS what you ARE...a LOST SINNER who is in constant TORMENT within himself..."For the Word of God is QUICK, and POWERFUL, and SHARPER than any TWOEDGED sword, PIERCING even to the DIVIDING asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the THOUGHTS and INTENTS of the HEART. Neither is there any creature that is NOT manifest in His sight: but all things are NAKED and OPENED unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do" [Hebrews 4:12-13].
BOTTOM-LINE: You are in TORMENT, my friend...and in desperate need of a SAVIOUR who will give you the "peace" that SURPASSES all UNDERSTANDING [Philippians 4:7].
Marchello
Originally posted by debbiejo
Baptist Doctrine or Presbyterian, Calvin, Pentecostal, Methodists, Catholics, SDA, NNWC, SC, Independent, Baptist, Novereigen, Bible, Reformed, Church of Christ, Church of God, Community, Nazarene, Episcopal, Full Gospel, Independent, JWS, Free will, Sovereign Grace, Charismatic, Missionary Alliance, Jesus Christ, Community, Evangelistic, Interdenominational, Holiness, Synod, Orthodox, Social Brethren, Spiritual, Swedenborgian, Unitarian, Universal......Which doctrine is correct?
***NONE of the above...ONLY Biblical doctrine is correct.
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
***Animals do not have the capacity to think...and it appears from your posting that YOU are the one that is "spewing" ANGER.
I dont get angry
I get irritated and fed up with close minded machines
Originally posted by Marchello
BOTTOM-LINE: You are in TORMENT, my friend...and in desperate need of a SAVIOUR who will give you the "peace" that SURPASSES all UNDERSTANDING [Philippians 4:7].
I like that you put peace in quotes because "peace" is the closest you can get to peace if you let your life be run by a single book
you believe you have found truth and I do not begrudge you that but the fact that you think that your version of the truth mus tbe the only one disgusts me