Fantastic Four vs X-Men

Originally posted by Creshosk
You replied two minutes later. . there would have been an edited by with a timestamp at the bottom after that long.

Put what in? It was in there originally.

Interesting red herring you have going on here though.

Hahaha. 😉

Please. Why would I remove it? It aids my argument, as I said, telepathy isn't a fixed force.

It's not 'some telepathy', then the other person falls instantly, is it? Willpower is always shown as resistance to telepathy.

In any case, what's the 'sun-hot (nice phrase btw, sure you didn't quickly think it up?) fire' thing anyway?

It doesn't add to your argument at all, unless you are contending that a) fire of that temperature would instantly obliterate anyone, and b) that telepathy is instantly effective on anyone.

If you are saying that fire of that heat would instantly obliterate normal humans...so what? As I said, telepathy is always resisted.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
As I said, telepathy is always resisted.

wow

i guess prof x is just a loser in a wheelchair then

Originally posted by Pointinel
wow

i guess prof x is just a loser in a wheelchair then

Would probably be funny if that was what I was saying.

Resistance comes in degrees. You can resist attack, or arrest...that doesn't mean you won't be attacked or arrested does it?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
telepathy is always resisted.

I see its useless to try and debate with you as well. . . Because now you're obviously making things up to suit your cause.

no i was serious

if that's the case my post is true

not mocking you or anything

Originally posted by Pointinel
wow

i guess prof x is just a loser in a wheelchair then

Purposely misunderstanding even after explanation?

Possibly a new low.

'Resistance comes in degrees. You can resist attack, or arrest...that doesn't mean you won't be attacked or arrested does it?'

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Purposely misunderstanding even after explanation?

Possibly a new low.

'Resistance comes in degrees. You can resist attack, or arrest...that doesn't mean you won't be attacked or arrested does it?'

Yeah, you're making things up now.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Purposely misunderstanding even after explanation?

Possibly a new low.

'Resistance comes in degrees. You can resist attack, or arrest...that doesn't mean you won't be attacked or arrested does it?'

ok i get it

maybe you should rephrase

Originally posted by Pointinel
ok i get it

maybe you should rephrase

Ignoring the times when an agressive "put them down now" telepathic attack has done just that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which is why Juggernaut can resist it, or magneto. . .

Yeah, you're making things up now.

What? What are you talking about? Have you never seen willpower-based telepathy resistance?

Even if it's not successful, it doesn't mean a) it didn't happen, and b) it has to happen for any long period of time in this fight.

One person has to resist for about 2 seconds to take out Emma Frost.

Pointinel- it's perfectly clear as it is.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's making a basic premise that there is some natural resitence that everybody has, JUST to delay how quickly Emma's attack takes effect, in order to give the FF more time, and more of a chance.

Yes, and you're ignoring it so as to negate their chance.

Which is more sensible?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What? What are you talking about? Have you never seen willpower-based telepathy resistance?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Even if it's not successful, it doesn't mean a) it didn't happen, and b) it has to happen for any long period of time in this fight.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
One person has to resist for about 2 seconds to take out Emma Frost.

Pointinel- it's perfectly clear as it is.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's making a basic premise that there is some natural resitence that everybody has, JUST to delay how quickly Emma's attack takes effect, in order to give the FF more time, and more of a chance.

Ignoring the times when an agressive "put them down now" telepathic attack has done just that.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Yes, and you're ignoring it so as to negate their chance.

Which is more sensible?

I'd say that sticking to the facts as they are is more sensible than trying hard to give the FF the edge.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Going off of something that has occured more often vs something made up to give the other team the chance?

I'd say that sticking to the facts as they are is more sensible than trying hard to give the FF the edge.

The amusing thing is, you're so far up the X-Men you've lost all logical reasoning.

I'm not trying to give the FF a chance for want of letting them win. I'm saying that unless Emma Frost can definitively, within a split second neutralise all four members completely, then the fight isn't *bell* mindwipe *end of fight* within the first second*.

If you can't acknowledge that such an event is not 'fact', then there's no hope for you.

Take a step back and see what is being said, rather than what you want to argue against.

I find that willpower only plays a role against telepathy when mind-control is involved. It does squat against a straight up mindblast. Emma isn't going to mindcontrol them...she's going to shut them off. And there's nothing any of them can do about it.

But I need not add anything to this. Creshosk has single-handedly owned this entire thread and taken down all comers. Good job, I'm REALLY impressed.

once again......sue has proved faster than emma......she took her out.....recently.....

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
The amusing thing is, you're so far up the X-Men you've lost all logical reasoning.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I'm not trying to give the FF a chance for want of letting them win. I'm saying that unless Emma Frost can definitively, within a split second neutralise all four members completely, then the fight isn't *bell* mindwipe *end of fight* within the first second*.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
If you can't acknowledge that such an event is not 'fact', then there's no hope for you.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Take a step back and see what is being said, rather than what you want to argue against.

I saw through AC's ploy, just as I now see through your ploy.

If everybody could resist psionic attacks then why don't they? Why are people knocked down instantly?

Juggernaut's helmet shields him from psionics. Why swould it need to if what you said was true?
Juggernaut without the psionic sheilding from his helmet is taken out instantly by a psionic. Obviously there is no resistence there.

Originally posted by Zahit
once again......sue has proved faster than emma......she took her out.....recently.....

Originally posted by demigawd
I find that willpower only plays a role against telepathy when mind-control is involved.

From when you last tried?

Originally posted by demigawd

But I need not add anything to this. Creshosk has single-handedly owned this entire thread and taken down all comers. Good job, I'm REALLY impressed.

Isn't the case though is it? It's a possibility. Why are people acting as if this possibility is an inevitable fact?

Too many variables to act as if there is only one outcome, which is the only point I am making.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
From when you last tried?

Isn't the case though is it? It's a possibility. Why are people acting as if this possibility is an inevitable fact?

Too many variables to act as if there is only one outcome, which is the only point I am making.

"telepathy is always resisted."