Originally posted by RogerRamjet
yeah right...he's lucky when he still stands after the fight against the portier of the BB... 🙄
So you are saying wolverine can take the FF, please tell me you aren't serious, I just finished with fanboys...
Logically run me step by step on how wolverine is winning this...
I'll be waiting...
This fight could go either way but I give it to the x men. Because of storm and emma I mean cant storm just shoot lighting bolts at Ben and why cant she take out the human torch. I know it wouldn't be easy but she does control the weather and fire doesn't do to well against water and the wind blowing at him. So why doesn't she just create a rainstorm for johnny.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIt's your argument. 😆
No I didn't. Show me where I said he would NOT get taken out. I said:"Who actually says he's going to be taken out? Oh yes, you. Doesn't mean it would actually happen does it?"
I didn't say he wouldn't. Stop making assumptions to aid your pathetic arguement. It's stupid.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThe same can be said of you, believe it or not.
It's not. It's you being 3rd grade because you can't counter my points without assuming and misreading.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes the only reason people are claiming it's as easy as a single mindwipe is that they are either A) X-Fans or B) Ignoring the FACT that it would never happen like that in the comics.
A) ad hominem
Ab) The people taht are denying that the mindwipe can work are FF fans.
B) Non factor to the boards.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd I was saying it's much more likely for him to be taken out before he reached Nova, than for him to reach nova before being taken out.
Yes, that was my point wasn't it? He might not be taken out.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIt's just as wrong to assume he won't, given the fact he has no psionic resistance.
No I wasn't. I was only ever saying that it's wrong to assume Torch WOULD get taken out. He may very well not.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI would say that your hypocrasy was ironic, but I've rather come to expect it by this point.
Try again. This time with no misreading and assumptions.
Originally posted by Droopy
This fight could go either way but I give it to the x men. Because of storm and emma I mean cant storm just shoot lighting bolts at Ben and why cant she take out the human torch. I know it wouldn't be easy but she does control the weather and fire doesn't do to well against water and the wind blowing at him. So why doesn't she just create a rainstorm for johnny.
Very true, but nothing is stopping the Torch from hitting the whole X-Men with a blast of Nova flame...wind or rain wont mean anything to his Nova flame he's burned a hole through the Earth with it, I dont think some showers r going to stop it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not using repetitve emphasis to support my opinion. Nor should you assume that. Their reputation ALONE is no reason for ANYONE to give them the win and I'll be the first to say so.Why mention it? Because it does help bring things back to reality a bit, it brings into scope the nature of the respective teams and the tasks they undertake as a result of their talent and ability.
Now would you like fries with that?
-AC
Oh...and i take something less oily!
Please don't get me wrong...i'm a fan of the FF (surprised?)...but taking in all i know about both teams...the X-Men DO have a good chance BUT are admittedly far from being clear winners!
Originally posted by WynndarAnd nothing is stopping Emma from effecting the entire FF team either.
Very true, but nothing is stopping the Torch from hitting the whole X-Men with a blast of Nova flame...wind or rain wont mean anything to his Nova flame he's burned a hole through the Earth with it, I dont think some showers r going to stop it.
The place where Sue beat Emma, Emma was talking about what she was going to do instead of doing it. You don't see a difference between talking and acting?
Is that the best u can do? That was an obvious depiction of Sue's superiority over Emma. It makes perfect sense for Sue to beat her. She's been around longer, she fights much more. She's a better warrior and just a lot tougher all around. After she KO's Emma she even says "Ur not the only one who's powers operate at the speed of thought. U read X-Men and u know that Emma would know what IW was thinking as soon as she thought of it. But IW beat her to the draw. IW can also protect her whole team from Emma if they r not already protected from Reed's tech.
Its like I said in the other thread...If this debate is simply going to amount to an argument over who strikes first and takes out the other team single handedly, Emma or IW, then this isnt a going to be an interesting thread.