Originally posted by Creshosk
You're obviously baised for thinking that Sue isn't powerful enough to take on three x-men simultaneously.🙄
Dude look with emma in the picture I am pretty sure Sue isnt gonna be going at it with wolverine or cyclops dont you think emma knows sue can take them down that is why she has to hold sue off. If emma werent in the pick it would be another story but with her that gives the X men a chance and a chance is all you need to win.
Originally posted by DroopySorry, should have said that I was being sarcastic. . .
Dude look with emma in the picture I am pretty sure Sue isnt gonna be going at it with wolverine or cyclops dont you think emma knows sue can take them down that is why she has to hold sue off. If emma werent in the pick it would be another story but with her that gives the X men a chance and a chance is all you need to win.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Maybe. Cyclops I'm more or less seeing a luck of the draw.Wolverine no contest.
Storm might be a bit more difficult than the other two.
Well if Sue can protect herself against anything they throw at her and pretty much kill them easily. Conclusion to be drawn is?
Originally posted by Creshosk
And you are once again defending the thing that you aren't clinging to. . . hmm . . .
I'm not, stop talking nonsense.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So obviously you know exactly what I know, better than I know myself. . . Because I obviously don't read the comics, do I? How could I knot know that reed always has the components on him to make a new gadget. . .Like when he had to use the fantasticar to make a gadget to defeat Terminus. No, he obviously already had that gadget assembled and on him.
I never said he always has gadgets did I? I never said he DIDN'T. You are assuming he doesn't carry things with him. Either way, Reed doesn't exactly need prep to create something does he? No, so why are you making the assumption that in this fight Reed is going to be unarmed? Or that he needs prep to be armed?
Originally posted by Creshosk
See above 😆
Ditto.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You seem to think it means that anyone who doesn't agree with you is baised. I seem to think that it means favoring one side or the other, and including trying to bend the rules to one side or the other's favor.
Yes, so what have you been doing by scripting a non-existant fight in the favour of those you want to win? Being biased is the correct answer. I haven't done that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh, so now the FF are batman are they? They always carry all the thigns they need with them? How conveint.
Stop being so presumptuous boy. It doesn't make you look cool.
You're saying NO gadgets, correct? No prep, correct? Fine. I can get with that. But where do you get the info that Reed needs major prep to create a gadget? If he already has a weapon that could be capable of dealing with the X-Men, he's not using prep is he? He's using a weapon. Just like Wolverine using his claws.
Originally posted by Creshosk
"The rules should be bent to favor the FF," is not being fair.
True. Who said that?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Now reed NEEDS his gadgets for this to be fair? I thought Sue could take them all on herself?
On the Sue part: She's taken Emma. She could take the other 3. In this fight she just so happens to have The Human Torch, Reed Richards and The Thing on her team.
Second: I never said Reed NEEDS them. I said let's make it equal. If Reed has gadgets available, they're just weapons. Wolverine has weapons. If you said "let's give Wolverine claws" that wouldn't be fair would it? Seeing as he already has them, he is allowed to use them. If Reed already has gadgets capable, why isn't he allowed to use them? That's all I'm asking.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Unfortunatley we'd have to bend the rules to give them something that they don't have with them in EVERY fight.
The rules state no prep. If there's not prep needed to use these weapons, it's not prep is it?
Originally posted by Creshosk
And that would be giving them prep, since this is supposed to be a random battle they wouldn't be carrying their anti-X spray with them, any more then they'd be carrying anti-spider spray, or anti superman spray or anything else.
It's technically not prep. The thread creator said F4 Vs X-Men. Never was it stated if weapons were allowed or what not. Or that there was no further knowledge.
Either way, in my OPINION the F4 wouldn't even need their weapons. I'm just saying, it doesn't count as prep so why are we denying them the possible use?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Like Hyperion claiming to have slain everyone in his old universe including galactus, and then being taken out by mimic?Characters posture, because people think it's cool.
Hyperion was lying so therefore Sue was? Sue said it after she took out Emma before Emma knew what had happened. She didn't boast and then not do it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, I'm going to call Sue mistaken. Or unproven.
Despite her actually proving it minutes before? Second, who are YOU to call Susan Storm-Richards, MISTAKEN about her own powers? She knows more about them than you do.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's possible. But it's not really proven yet.]
You're referring to which part of my quote?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes because she's going to make a claustrphobic, feel claustropohbic in an invisible bubble with which she can see out of.
Claustrophobia is a fear of enclosed spaces, not enclosed opaque spaces. You could put a claustrophobic in a glass box and they'd still suffer an attack.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And nowwe are attacking writer stupidity. . .*sigh*
I rarely ever do that, ever. In that case it was Chris Claremont. The man who had Gambit beat Gladiator with a pack of cards.
Can you start countering my points instead of replying for the sake of it? Because that doesn't mean you're doing good.
-AC
He doesn't NEED weapons.
If he so chose he could tie Wolverine up (yes fanboys, he could). Thing could realistically take out Cyclops. Which would leave Storm Vs Torch and Sue Vs Emma.
It may VERY WELL not happen that way, I'm JUST using it as an example to kind of show that the chances of F4 winning are greater because of the nature of the combatants. The F4 DO have the edge. Psionic or not, because Sue can protect them from Emma. That and shall we remember that Emma can't use telepathy in diamond mode, so to use telepathy she must be vulnerable to attack. Burning for example. In diamond mode she's useless.
She's not as big a factor as people claim.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThat you're being baised for habving an opinon that differs from mine. 😉
Well if Sue can protect herself against anything they throw at her and pretty much kill them easily. Conclusion to be drawn is?
Or are only you allowed to claim that? 😕
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriDenial again. 😛
I'm not, stop talking nonsense.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo he never carries gadgets and he always carries gadgets. . . It's amazing how you can contradict yourself in a single paragraph like that. It's truly awe inspiring.
I never said he always has gadgets did I? I never said he DIDN'T. You are assuming he doesn't carry things with him. Either way, Reed doesn't exactly need prep to create something does he? No, so why are you making the assumption that in this fight Reed is going to be unarmed? Or that he needs prep to be armed?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo now I'm being basied for scripting a non-existent fight in favour of those I want to win, but you aren't being baised, even though you are scripting a non-existant fight in favour of those you want to win?
Yes, so what have you been doing by scripting a non-existant fight in the favour of those you want to win? Being biased is the correct answer. I haven't done that.
😕
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOh, right that's your gig. . . I'm supposed to call you old man in retort for calling me boy right?
Stop being so presumptuous boy. It doesn't make you look cool.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThe rules say that.
You're saying NO gadgets, correct? No prep, correct?
With prep and gadgets reed owns these mutie freaks. . .
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWho said major?
Fine. I can get with that. But where do you get the info that Reed needs major prep to create a gadget?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBinging a weapon to a fight, indicates you knew about the fight before hand, unless you always carry it on you, then it's just being prepared.
If he already has a weapon that could be capable of dealing with the X-Men, he's not using prep is he?
If you do not regularly carry it with you, then prep is required to retreive said item.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWolverine's claws are part of him physically. He always has his claws with him. . . he doesn't need prep to get his claws, just as the thing doesn't need prep to get his rocks.
He's using a weapon. Just like Wolverine using his claws.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
True. Who said that?[/quoite][QUOTE=4855308]Originally posted by AC
Oh but yes, "No gadgets". There's no reason to say no gadgets, but we do anyway because that takes away from the F4.
-AC
Who ever this AC person is. . .
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri*cling cling*
On the Sue part: She's taken Emma.
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurisop Sue could take these four at the same time. Gotcha. 😑
She could take the other 3. In this fight she just so happens to have The Human Torch, Reed Richards and The Thing on her team.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBut it's unequal without them, remember?
Second: I never said Reed NEEDS them.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSee?
I said let's make it equal.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri"Let's bend the rules for the FF"
If Reed has gadgets available, they're just weapons. Wolverine has weapons. If you said "let's give Wolverine claws" that wouldn't be fair would it? Seeing as he already has them, he is allowed to use them. If Reed already has gadgets capable, why isn't he allowed to use them? That's all I'm asking.
Wolverine always has his claws with him, Reed doesn't always have his gadgets with him.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriPrep is needed to aquire these weapons.
The rules state no prep. If there's not prep needed to use these weapons, it's not prep is it?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriKMC rules are what we default to.
It's technically not prep. The thread creator said F4 Vs X-Men. Never was it stated if weapons were allowed or what not. Or that there was no further knowledge.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Either way, in my OPINION the F4 wouldn't even need their weapons. I'm just saying, it doesn't count as prep so why are we denying them the possible use?
Who says it doesn't caount as prep? You.
Who says it counts as prep? KMC Rules.
Who's trying to bend the rules? You.
Who's being unfair? "-AC"
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHyperion was posturing, so its possible sue was as well. You can't always count on what a character is saying to the other person during a battle when its a pschological warfare tactic intended to psyche the other person out.
Hyperion was lying so therefore Sue was?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriStill seems like posturing to me.
Sue said it after she took out Emma before Emma knew what had happened. She didn't boast and then not do it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurishe had "prep".
Despite her actually proving it minutes before?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd obviously you know more about the character than the writer does. . . Since you know for sure that she definitly wasn't posturing.
Second, who are YOU to call Susan Storm-Richards, MISTAKEN about her own powers? She knows more about them than you do.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThe claim that her poer does move at the speeed of thought.
You're referring to which part of my quote?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSure lecture someone who's loved one suffers from the phobia, obviously they don't know as much about it with their secondhand knowledge, than someone with third hand knowledge does.
Claustrophobia is a fear of enclosed spaces, not enclosed opaque spaces. You could put a claustrophobic in a glass box and they'd still suffer an attack.
They have to feel trapped. if they can see out then they don't feel as trapped.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I rarely ever do that, ever. In that case it was Chris Claremont. The man who had Gambit beat Gladiator with a pack of cards.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There's no proof? Sue said it, which means the writers say she can. What more proof do you want? You're actually gonna call the writers liars?
[QUOTE=4857686]Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can you start countering my points instead of replying for the sake of it? Because that doesn't mean you're doing good.[/quite] Tired of being shut down?
"Stop responding to my posts!"
Why don't you start countering mine, instead of responding for the sake of responding? 😉