Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Don't direct show me where it says its "Gods Power", Not Crowns or anything else 🙂 "Gods power". 🙂
You have no ground to stand on Whirly. 🙁
The crown is what it is. The place where gods consciousness resides. Jean is the phoenix of the crown her powers are derived from the crown. In New Xmen 150 when Jean is manifesting her phoenix powers she says in a conversation with Wolverine that she doesnt know how long she'll be allowed to stay in our plane of existence. Yet more evidence that she takes orders from a higher power. When Jean is in the crown she is directed by an unseen voice. That is sufficient.
On top of that she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul of creation an aspect of God. Which fits in with the much repeated phoenix saying "i am the sum and substance of all that is"
Accept it or delude yourself. Its entirely up to you. 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have no ground to stand on Whirly. 🙁The crown is what it is. The place where gods consciousness resides. Jean is the phoenix of the crown her powers are derived from the crown. In New Xmen 150 when Jean is manifesting her phoenix powers she says in a conversation with Wolverine that she doesnt know how long she'll be allowed to stay in our plane of existence. Yet more evidence that she takes orders from a higher power. When Jean is in the crown she is directed by an unseen voice. That is sufficient.
On top of that she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul of creation an aspect of God. Which fits in with the much repeated phoenix saying "i am the sum and substance of all that is"
Accept it or delude yourself. Its entirely up to you. 😉
Show me where it says this 🙂 thats all I'm asking, if you can 🙂
You have no ground to stand on Whirly.
The crown is what it is. The place where gods consciousness resides. Jean is the phoenix of the crown her powers are derived from the crown. In New Xmen 150 when Jean is manifesting her phoenix powers she says in a conversation with Wolverine that she doesnt know how long she'll be allowed to stay in our plane of existence. Yet more evidence that she takes orders from a higher power. When Jean is in the crown she is directed by an unseen voice. That is sufficient.
On top of that she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul of creation an aspect of God. Which fits in with the much repeated phoenix saying "i am the sum and substance of all that is"
Accept it or delude yourself. Its entirely up to you.
ohhhh right, so your the supreme authority on WHAT IS AND WHAT ISNT, even if it never says anythin on the subject in the comics?
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's another part of the Omega point theory.Omega level mutants that have the genetic potential to tap into the phoenix force.
Hmm. The Omega point theory I'm familar with, says nothing about mutants.
It has more to do with the structure of the universe at the last moment of the crunch, plus a claim about intelligence using it. I don't see how it applies to choosing avatars??
Originally posted by Richrf
Hmm. The Omega point theory I'm familar with, says nothing about mutants.It has more to do with the structure of the universe at the last moment of the crunch, plus a claim about intelligence using it. I don't see how it applies to choosing avatars??
Read New Xmen 154 with that in mind and you'll be fine 😉
Originally posted by Richrf
Hmm. The Omega point theory I'm familar with, says nothing about mutants.It has more to do with the structure of the universe at the last moment of the crunch, plus a claim about intelligence using it. I don't see how it applies to choosing avatars??
Quentin Quire(Kid Omega) reached a new form of existence as a result of his genetic potential as an Omega level mutant and the drug "Kick".
He was in the White Hot Room as Quentin-Phoenix when Jean-Phoenix recreated universe 616.
Result:
Omega-level is the potenial to access the Phoenixforce and reach the highest form of mutation, being able to manipulate the omniverse from the Hot White Room.
Omega level theory in short!🙂
Originally posted by RichrfDifferent Omega point theory.
Hmm. The Omega point theory I'm familar with, says nothing about mutants.It has more to do with the structure of the universe at the last moment of the crunch, plus a claim about intelligence using it. I don't see how it applies to choosing avatars??
The one that talks about evolution to the point of becoming one with god.
Originally posted by leonidas
how does the pf, a portion of god, become confused, as it did in endsong? it appears to be a sentient 'creature' in and of itself . . . 😕
That was a shard of Jeans phoenix essence. It was just a part of Jeans consciousness which got seperated from Jean as her consciousness was reforming in the white hot room. Thats why it was confused. Thats why at the end Jean ripped it from Emma and took it into herself.
That was basically cementing the new phoenix retcon as current continuity. It supported the idea that phoenix was Jean not a seperate entity. The phoenix force is just the power of creation derived from the crown that those with phoenix potential in their genes can tap into. The avatars are the phoenixes. The energy bird is just a manifestation of their power and it symbolises their rebirth into higher beings.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have no ground to stand on Whirly. 🙁The crown is what it is. The place where gods consciousness resides. Jean is the phoenix of the crown her powers are derived from the crown. In New Xmen 150 when Jean is manifesting her phoenix powers she says in a conversation with Wolverine that she doesnt know how long she'll be allowed to stay in our plane of existence. Yet more evidence that she takes orders from a higher power. When Jean is in the crown she is directed by an unseen voice. That is sufficient.
On top of that she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul of creation an aspect of God. Which fits in with the much repeated phoenix saying "i am the sum and substance of all that is"
Accept it or delude yourself. Its entirely up to you. 😉
Are you sure that's what tiphereth means GS? I understand it's place in the tree of life according to Kabbalah, but are you familiar with Metatron's Cube and Keter? If so, you might change up a bit of what you're saying.
This thread is still a reach, though.