Originally posted by demigawdUnless otherwise specified: "Forum rules", fighting to the best of their ability? Her best showing of ability she can take pretty much any Earth based hero as far as marvel goes, what with her stalemating Galactus one on one, and that being a character that you need a plot device to beat normally.
Fair enough. So when you see Jean Grey vs. threads - how much power do YOU give her? And why would you use that vs. what you said was "the way people perceive her to be normally"?
Originally posted by demigawdDepends on if she's supposed to take them out or not.
How does she do against the list I set up? Assume the opponents aren't a danger to the omniverse. I'm interested in hearing your opinion on it.
If she's supposed to well. . .
If not she's given enough power normally to be like a bit above Galactus. Since regular hosts(like Rachael) can stalemate him.
I'm not sure about more that that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Unless otherwise specified: "Forum rules", fighting to the best of their ability? Her best showing of ability she can take pretty much any Earth based hero as far as marvel goes, what with her stalemating Galactus one on one, and that being a character that you need a plot device to beat normally.Depends on if she's supposed to take them out or not.
If she's supposed to well. . .
If not she's given enough power normally to be like a bit above Galactus. Since regular hosts(like Rachael) can stalemate him.
I'm not sure about more that that.
Wouldn't G.S. say she is the force and there for she always has full access to its power ?
Originally posted by Sir WhirlysplatWell "Jgg" was a plot device sort of thing.
I know.....
but I disagree.🙂
Tell me if according to you
Xornetto > Phoenix
What does that say for Wolverine killing him?
Wolverine > Xornetto > Phoenix
And since Phoenix can stalemate Galactus, and had the fight continued Phoenix would have beaten him.
Wolverine > Xornetto > Phoenix > Galactus
Any equation that has
Wolverine > Galactus
Has a SERIOUS, serious flaw in it.
Plot device.
Plot device allowed
Wolverine > Xornetto and Xornetto > Phoenix
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well "Jgg" was a plot device sort of thing.Tell me if according to you
Xornetto > Phoenix
What does that say for Wolverine killing him?
Wolverine > Xornetto > Phoenix
And since Phoenix can stalemate Galactus, and had the fight continued Phoenix would have beaten him.
Wolverine > Xornetto > Phoenix > Galactus
Any equation that has
Wolverine > Galactus
Has a SERIOUS, serious flaw in it.
Plot device.
Plot device allowed
Wolverine > Xornetto and Xornetto > Phoenix
Style and situations make fights.
Fighter A beats fighter B but loses to fighter C
Figther C beats fighter A but loses to fighter B
🙂
All things serve the beam 🙂
M-O-O-N spells moon
-SW 😂
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat"And situations"
Style and situations make fights.Fighter A beats fighter B but loses to fighter C
Figther C beats fighter A but loses to fighter B
🙂
All things serve the beam 🙂
M-O-O-N spells moon
-SW 😂
Right, plot device.
Unless you're saying that Wolverine can beat Xornetto without the plot device. 🙄
Quantm mechanics says anything which can happen, sooner or later, will happen. The probability that a mouse will suddenly be teleported to the core of the sun and survive for a week is beyond astronomical (scientists start to use compound notation for these kind of events, eg 10^10^10), but allowed for. As such: Wolverine > Galactus is HIGHLY HIGHLY etc improbable, but somewhere in the multiverse it can happen.
See what happens when ya start playing with matches?
kicking
Originally posted by Mindship
Quantm mechanics says anything which can happen, sooner or later, will happen. The probability that a mouse will suddenly be teleported to the core of the sun and survive for a week is beyond astronomical (scientists start to use compound notation for these kind of events, eg 10^10^10), but allowed for. As such: Wolverine > Galactus is HIGHLY HIGHLY etc improbable, but somewhere in the multiverse it can happen.See what happens when ya start playing with matches?
kicking
Agreed and Cresh likes Cats so he should be down with that.
😉
Originally posted by Sir WhirlysplatNAw, there was a plot device involved for Wolverine to be able to do that. Straight up fight Xornetto beats Wolverine so hard Wolverine didn't stand a chance. . .
I thought you would as its Wolverine 🙂
Well more than like 1/10: 😖
Originally posted by MindshipWell that's allso the justification for the infinite reality theory.
Quantm mechanics says anything which can happen, sooner or later, will happen. The probability that a mouse will suddenly be teleported to the core of the sun and survive for a week is beyond astronomical (scientists start to use compound notation for these kind of events, eg 10^10^10), but allowed for. As such: Wolverine > Galactus is HIGHLY HIGHLY etc improbable, but somewhere in the multiverse it can happen.See what happens when ya start playing with matches?
kicking
To better help matter take all possible forms and all that. . .
Along with the whole, infinite 0 points in the first dimension, infinite 1 dimensional points in the second dimeniosnion, infinite number of 2-d imensional planes in the third dimension, infinite number of three dimensional objects in the fourth dimension etc etc.
This however is a pretty good cry against PIS and CIS related events.. 😖
Originally posted by Creshosk
Unless otherwise specified: "Forum rules", fighting to the best of their ability? Her best showing of ability she can take pretty much any Earth based hero as far as marvel goes, what with her stalemating Galactus one on one, and that being a character that you need a plot device to beat normally.Depends on if she's supposed to take them out or not.
If she's supposed to well. . .
If not she's given enough power normally to be like a bit above Galactus. Since regular hosts(like Rachael) can stalemate him.
I'm not sure about more that that.
Then we're agreed.
Originally posted by Fishy 500
Wouldn't G.S. say she is the force and there for she always has full access to its power ?
YES. And that's what I take issue with. I don't have a problem with his many essays showing what the PF's role in the universe is. I have a problem with his saying that Jean = PF and as such can defeat ANY character in the omniverse.
I put Jean Grey, operating to the fullest of her abilities, a bit above Galactus - like Cresh. Roughly Celestial level.
Originally posted by demigawd
Then we're agreed.YES. And that's what I take issue with. I don't have a problem with his many essays showing what the PF's role in the universe is. I have a problem with his saying that Jean = PF and as such can defeat ANY character in the omniverse.
I put Jean Grey, operating to the fullest of her abilities, a bit above Galactus - like Cresh. Roughly Celestial level.
What have you two got yourselves into ..... this will be a lot fun tomoz 😉 , oh shit i have my mocks 🙁
haha, I'm sure GS will have lots to say. But given that ultimately, he hasn't actually convinced anybody of much of anything, and I have no illusion of convincing him myself, I should probably just abandon the thead altogether. It's really just become an exercise in futility....or e-dick swinging. 😂