Originally posted by newjak86Oh yes because radiation really DOES grant powers. . . Like Spiderman's spiderbite. . or Hulks gamma radiation. . .
Not really as they gained this power from a cosmic source meaning that is outside of laws of reality.
Originally posted by newjak86Why? It is after all a comic book.
Now as a mutant evolutionary power I find it hard to believe it can happen as a real power.
I find it hard to believe that a person can be exposed to radiation, have their DNA altered, and reult in super powers rather than cancer or some other illness.
Originally posted by newjak86No he wouldn't. That's his power. He doesn't NEED to understand how it works.
Since that would make Froge the smartest being ever because he would have to know every principle on every subject.
Originally posted by newjak86Good thing he doesn't NEED to have the knowledge in order to use his mutant power right?
Since it is impossible for someone to be born with that knowledge then he would have to learn it and no man could ever learn everything in one lifetime.
Originally posted by newjak86And here we have other people that should not be able to do the things they do through evolution either.
I think a much more realistic use of his power is that he can invent things based on the knowledge he has a a much faster pace because his brain has mutated to organized and decipher info he has faster than normal.
Wolverine is realistic, Jubilee is not.
Beast is realistic, Cyclops is not.
Classic Angel is okay, Iceman is not.
Youll note that the physical mutations are more realistic than say being able to project energy.
But hey, it's something we have to accept as part of the comic book, right?
I mean there is that whole radiation thing if you want realism.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAh yes the origin argument that we've covered in depth together else where.
are we arguing the origin of comic characters, come on.Lets get back to logic...
All of their origins don't fit in well with real world physics, do they?
Radiation, Born with it.
Genetic diseases and cancer for all of them.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh yes because radiation really DOES grant powers. . . Like Spiderman's spiderbite. . or Hulks gamma radiation. . .Why? It is after all a comic book.
I find it hard to believe that a person can be exposed to radiation, have their DNA altered, and reult in super powers rather than cancer or some other illness.
No he wouldn't. That's his power. He doesn't NEED to understand how it works.
Good thing he doesn't NEED to have the knowledge in order to use his mutant power right?
And here we have other people that should not be able to do the things they do through evolution either.
Wolverine is realistic, Jubilee is not.
Beast is realistic, Cyclops is not.
Classic Angel is okay, Iceman is not.Youll note that the physical mutations are more realistic than say being able to project energy.
But hey, it's something we have to accept as part of the comic book, right?
I mean there is that whole radiation thing if you want realism.
Its like wizardry vs sorcery.
Doom, reed, and bats are wizards.
Forge, is a sorceror, he doesn't NEED to understand it, its in his blood.
Originally posted by Creshoskthats what I'm saying, but you need logic in this situation, origions should be in the discussion forum, not debating, who cares?
Ah yes the origin argument that we've covered in depth together else where.All of their origins don't fit in well with real world physics, do they?
Radiation, Born with it.
Genetic diseases and cancer for all of them.
Originally posted by stormfront13
why are you unwilling to have a conversation w/ me
Because due to the fact that you have the sensibilites and intelligence of the common garden slug, it makes it near impossible to have any kind of conversation with you.
Not only do you base your points on extreme, unrelenting bias toward who you want to win and who you love, but you seemingly have no knowledge of anything outside of those areas. You continually misread my posts and I have to explain things many times.
-AC
Originally posted by CreshoskDid I sat radiation can do that no. I said Cosmic inlfuences can. Plus radiation has been known to trigger mutations though I don't believe it would ever result in a Hulk or Spiderman.
Oh yes because radiation really DOES grant powers. . . Like Spiderman's spiderbite. . or Hulks gamma radiation. . .Why? It is after all a comic book.
I find it hard to believe that a person can be exposed to radiation, have their DNA altered, and reult in super powers rather than cancer or some other illness.
No he wouldn't. That's his power. He doesn't NEED to understand how it works.
Good thing he doesn't NEED to have the knowledge in order to use his mutant power right?
And here we have other people that should not be able to do the things they do through evolution either.
Wolverine is realistic, Jubilee is not.
Beast is realistic, Cyclops is not.
Classic Angel is okay, Iceman is not.Youll note that the physical mutations are more realistic than say being able to project energy.
But hey, it's something we have to accept as part of the comic book, right?
I mean there is that whole radiation thing if you want realism.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because due to the fact that you have the sensibilites and intelligence of the common garden slug, it makes it near impossible to have any kind of conversation with you.Not only do you base your points on extreme, unrelenting bias toward who you want to win and who you love, but you seemingly have no knowledge of anything outside of those areas. You continually misread my posts and I have to explain things many times.
-AC
missread what posts? i hardly reply 2 u because you don't talk to people, you insult people.
For it to be an insult, I have to intend it as one. I can't help if you're easily offended or insulted.
Either way, I posted something about Forge and you completely didn't get what I meant. No offence meant, but you are genuinely a stupid comics "fan". Because you're not a comics fan at all, you're an X-Fan. You're commenting on F4 Vs X-Men when you've admitted before to barely even knowing who they were.
You can't debate with no knowledge.
-AC
Originally posted by newjak86Yeah, but their origins are more logical right? Since they weren't "born with it" right?
Did I sat radiation can do that no. I said Cosmic inlfuences can. Plus radiation has been known to trigger mutations though I don't believe it would ever result in a Hulk or Spiderman.
Originally posted by newjak86No you don't. 😄
Simply sating it is his power doesn't change the concept behind it needed to make it a real power that evoltution even in a comic book could do.
How do people evolve to control ICE, or the WEATHER, or project energy from there eyes, or even turning back and forth from metal, or combusting moecules on a molecular level?
These aren't natural paths that a human can acheive in the real world, because what do they stem from in the real world?
Originally posted by newjak86And how is that a natural evolution chain, in the real world? What creature can utilize energy from the sun to release it as energy from the eyes?
Cyclops optic beams are from his eyes being able to use sunlight and focus it into blast.
Originally posted by newjak86Why? What creature can do this?
Possiblt improbable but still a cocept that can be believed.
Originally posted by newjak86Like the ability to control weather? Or be able to manipulate kinetic energy?
Energy projection isn't as out there as one would think since our bodies do hold very different and sometimes unstabble substances in it.
Originally posted by newjak86No he wouldn't. HE wouldn't even have to really know why certain things go in certain places. He is just told by his power to put this here and this there.
And for Forge's power to be remotely possible he would have to have been born with knowledge on every subject.