Originally posted by newjak86
I know you people were just asking for a more direct answer on what could Reed possibly build or do then just Reed builds something.
Also there is a distinct difference between Thing and a mutant. Thing was changed by Cosmic forces Mutants are all genetic scientific meaning that the forces that make them fall into Reed's field of expertise more. The likeliness of him building a machine to neutralize the mutant gene is not as far off as one would think.
I think that's a good point. And given how many of these things have been built in the past, it's certain buildable. But...can he do it in an hour? (remember, he'd have to build it from scratch according to the rules). It's taken considerable effort for it to be done in the past, like the YEARS it took for the High Evolutionary to build before Sinister took it over.
Originally posted by demigawdAs Storm said it took Forge an hour to build a similar device and despite the fact it is his power Forge doesn't normally go around building anything at anytime. I still put Reed above Forge. Plus Reed already has an understanding of how the mutants gene works as Mutants are common. What takes things so long to build is compiling data and figuring out how things work and what things work which are already available to Reed. Since the data and other variables are already taken care of it is simply placing them in to a machine which uses them which Reed is very capable of dueing in little time.
I think that's a good point. And given how many of these things have been built in the past, it's certain buildable. But...can he do it in an hour? (remember, he'd have to build it from scratch according to the rules). It's taken considerable effort for it to be done in the past, like the YEARS it took for the High Evolutionary to build before Sinister took it over.
Originally posted by newjak86
As Storm said it took Forge an hour to build a similar device and despite the fact it is his power Forge doesn't normally go around building anything at anytime. I still put Reed above Forge. Plus Reed already has an understanding of how the mutants gene works as Mutants are common. What takes things so long to build is compiling data and figuring out how things work and what things work which are already available to Reed. Since the data and other variables are already taken care of it is simply placing them in to a machine which uses them which Reed is very capable of dueing in little time.
alright
1)I never said it took forg an hour, I said over an hour.
2)why would you put reed above forge? forges power is to create anything he can magine. if they had to build a mutant gene-nullifer, then forge should win seeing as he has more expierence building things like that, and the fact that it's his power to do it.
Originally posted by newjak86Actually The X-Men are born mutants.
I know you people were just asking for a more direct answer on what could Reed possibly build or do then just Reed builds something.
Also there is a distinct difference between Thing and a mutant. Thing was changed by Cosmic forces Mutants are all genetic scientific meaning that the forces that make them fall into Reed's field of expertise more. The likeliness of him building a machine to neutralize the mutant gene is not as far off as one would think.
Spiderman, the fantastic four, and the hulk are also mutants. . . they were changed on a genetic level, it's in their genes too.
Originally posted by newjak86OVER an hour, And yes it is his power. he does it naturally and without needing to understand how it works.
As Storm said it took Forge an hour to build a similar device and despite the fact it is his power Forge doesn't normally go around building anything at anytime.
Originally posted by newjak86Reed has to figure out how it works. Forge just needs to make it.
I still put Reed above Forge.
Originally posted by newjak86Forge didn't need to know. It's part of his power. It took him over an hour.
Plus Reed already has an understanding of how the mutants gene works as Mutants are common.
Originally posted by newjak86Actually he still needs to figure out how they work.
What takes things so long to build is compiling data and figuring out how things work and what things work which are already available to Reed.
Forge doesn't. Forge is already at the point in invention where he's ready to build the final working model. Reed starts at square one.
Originally posted by newjak86Actually he still has to figure them out. Forge doesn't.
Since the data and other variables are already taken care of it is simply placing them in to a machine which uses them which Reed is very capable of dueing in little time.
Say has Reed ever even built something like this?
Originally posted by demigawdAnd he'd have to have built it before. 😉
I think that's a good point. And given how many of these things have been built in the past, it's certain buildable. But...can he do it in an hour? (remember, he'd have to build it from scratch according to the rules). It's taken considerable effort for it to be done in the past, like the YEARS it took for the High Evolutionary to build before Sinister took it over.
Originally posted by stormfront13Then that is my fault as I only read an hour not over an hour. Anyway I give to Reed because overall he seems to have done more impressive things with prep time and inventing. While it is Forge's power he has never shown it to be as unlimited as people say in that he hasn't built as many or as powerful things as Reed has or could.
alright1)I never said it took forg an hour, I said over an hour.
2)why would you put reed above forge? forges power is to create anything he can magine. if they had to build a mutant gene-nullifer, then forge should win seeing as he has more expierence building things like that, and the fact that it's his power to do it.
Originally posted by stormfront13Yes but it doesn't change the fact that his power is absurd because the concepts that would have to be behind it to make it real which is impossible for one person to have.
forge probably- hasn't shown it because he isn't popular and isn't arond in comics much.
Originally posted by newjak86You mean like the strecthing ability? or the Rock hard skin, or super hot flames?
Yes but it doesn't change the fact that his power is absurd because the concepts that would have to be behind it to make it real which is impossible for one person to have.
Unrealistic since they can't happen in the real world right?
Originally posted by newjak86Which isn't the case at this point in time. 😉
Plus it is probably a good thing that he isn't a big time character or he would loose some of the myth in him. Think about it if he became a much more used characters writers would have to tone down his power to make it useable in a wide range of scenarios. Such as his power really isn't to invent anything but to invent anything that he has knowledge on.
Originally posted by newjak86
Yes but it doesn't change the fact that his power is absurd because the concepts that would have to be behind it to make it real which is impossible for one person to have.
Plus it is probably a good thing that he isn't a big time character or he would loose some of the myth in him. Think about it if he became a much more used characters writers would have to tone down his power to make it useable in a wide range of scenarios. Such as his power really isn't to invent anything but to invent anything that he has knowledge on.
just to let yoou know forge is a genious, not some middle-aged man who doesn't know anything. and actually, his power is to invent anything
Originally posted by Creshosktook the words OUT of my mouth, skill helps us adapt, but talent is a gift, that with skill is what the best in the world are...
Sort of like with skill at moving fast.Wolverine has skill, Spiderman has the gift.
Like you can practice speaking, looking people in the eyes, projection, dressing up, etc.
Then there's a person who walks in with a bummy tshirt, and gets people to notice him...
Originally posted by CreshoskNot really as they gained this power from a cosmic source meaning that is outside of laws of reality. Now as a mutant evolutionary power I find it hard to believe it can happen as a real power.
You mean like the strecthing ability? or the Rock hard skin, or super hot flames?Unrealistic since they can't happen in the real world right?
Which isn't the case at this point in time. 😉
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How do you have a power to "invent anything"?"Hi, I'm Forge. Due to a leap in evolution I can do what Dr. Doom and Reed can do anyway."
-AC
how do you have the power to control the weather, read minds, create force-fields, control high intensity flames? it's a comic.