Originally posted by xmarksthespotThey don't suffer from it if it's healed quickly enough.
What has all this got to do with lessening damage? It doesn't matter if pain registers from a concussion - if the damage is done the person suffers from a concussion.
This seems quite like the conversation with Newjak about Forge. I'm trying to explain what's there, while the other person is trying to explain why it should not be there.
Originally posted by JuntaiWhy do you say that? What does that have to do with past events being discarded as being outside the bounds of science? 😕
So then Batman from now on beats everyone.
ESPECIALLY with prep.
Originally posted by CreshoskThe course of the post highlited that science and physics don't matter, only comic book science and physics. In comic book science and physics, he can take down anyone but on a rare occasion he may get surprised. lol.
They don't suffer from it if it's healed quickly enough.This seems quite like the conversation with Newjak about Forge. I'm trying to explain what's there, while the other person is trying to explain why it should not be there.
Why do you say that? What does that have to do with past events being discarded as being outside the bounds of science? 😕
Originally posted by CreshoskSo you're saying that Colossus, Hulk, Abomination punch Wolverine with the force at their disposal, force that shatters mountains etc, and Wolverine recovers from these hits instantaneously and with no perceivable damage.
They don't suffer from it if it's healed quickly enough.
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Seeing as how he does the majority of the time, I think that overrides your opinion of what he should be able to take, don't you think?
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Why is he the only one that's bound to real world science?
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Funny how they were exagerating his abilites before he had a profile written for him then huh?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Real world physics that over ride comic book physics only when it's wolverine you mean.
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Or working off of past events. . .
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Overriding what's established in the comics with real world science is illogical. Why are you one sidedly overriding one side but not the other? Why only certain characters?
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You're not attempting to use real world science to fill in the missing gaps, you're attempting to use real world science to override what is already there. But only for certain characters. Why is this?
Originally posted by JuntaiOkay then. 😑
The course of the post highlited that science and physics don't matter, only comic book science and physics. In comic book science and physics, he can take down anyone but on a rare occasion he may get surprised. lol.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotSince that's what he does . . . the majority of the time anyway.
So you're saying that Colossus, Hulk, Abomination punch Wolverine with the force at their disposal, force that shatters mountains etc, and Wolverine recovers from these hits instantaneously and with no perceivable damage.
Originally posted by wannabeIt does for other characters, why not Wolverine?
Continous use of something that is wrong doesn't make it right.
Originally posted by wannabeSure he is, why not cyclops, spiderman, the hulk, the fantastic four, angel etc etc etc
He's not.
Originally posted by wannabeSee? "more beleiveable" you like it when he's taken down don't you?
They exaggerated and so built up a profile that would be hard to hold on to in case they wanted to draw a more believable picture of Wolvie (which, thank god, happens from time to time).
Originally posted by wannabeNo, you're talking about real world physics that override what already is in comics.
Who said that? We are talking about Wolverine(Sabretooth) here...doesn't make sense taking in other characters, does it?
And i'm referring to real world physics and natural forces that usually seem to work in comics too.
Originally posted by wannabeWhy is it needed?
Slightly moving from current status to a more believable one wouldn't be the worst thing.
Originally posted by wannabeAnd was he exagerating back when he first became an X-man? how about the Majority of his carrer? He exagerates the majority of his carrer?
Wolverine is a character who is interesting, capable, deep and cool enough not to depend on exaggeration!!!
Originally posted by wannabeI'm not talking about that. Why is Wolverine/Sabertooth being bound to sciencentific facts that do not exist in the same state in the comic book world when other characters are not being bound to scientific laws that make them "less beleiveable"?
I don't know if you read other posts of mine, but in case you did...strange that you didn't notice that i use the same standards on ALL characters...even those i favour the most.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotNo, how did you come to that conclucsion. He has to heal pretty damned fast to do the things that he does anyway, including taking down (I'm not going to use the word "levels" 😛) armies, and taking these heavy hits.
So there are two different healing factors - one for heavy hits, the other for everything else?
Originally posted by CreshoskFast for other things, yes, but not instantaneously as you imply he does for the heavy hits.
No, how did you come to that conclucsion. He has to heal pretty damned fast to do the things that he does anyway, including taking down (I'm not going to use the word "levels" 😛) armies, and taking these heavy hits.
Originally posted by jinzinWhy do you think by posting a pic you've suddenly made some great debate point?
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everything else.....----------- VVVVV-------- doh
Originally posted by xmarksthespotWhy is it instantaneous for somethings but not for others? 😬
Fast for other things, yes, but not instantaneously as you imply he does for the heavy hits.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotBecause its showing you a statement that's made in the comic in regards to the discussion. 😕
Why do you think by posting a pic you've suddenly made some great debate point?
Originally posted by broly112Yes, because that's what happens every time Wolverine is hit in the head:
colossus would pound the living shit out of wolvies head leaving no way to regenerate just instant death
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3735802
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Originally posted by CreshoskIsn't that what I'm asking you? 😕
Why is it instantaneous for somethings but not for others? 😬
Originally posted by CreshoskIt's a single panel with questionable relevance to speed of healing since it doesn't actually show him taking the actual damage. Yet he feels the need to do this 🙄.
Because its showing you a statement that's made in the comic in regards to the discussion. 😕
the only point I'm making is that people are often misguided about wolverine's character..and that if you read enough wolverine books you will come to realize this. I'm not so much posting the pic to make a point, rather to educate the public who may think your word has some validity to it as far as wolverine's ability to soak up damage goes, your perception of how the character probaby should be, appears to differ greatly from how the character is actually represented.... of course that's when semantic debates about popularity, bad writing, and whatever other redoubts you people can come up with to put lognan down start up all over again....to which my answer is always the same................When someone argues that they have seen evidence of something but that the evidence doesn't count because that character "shouldn't be able to do that" they need to re-think the premise of thier conclusion. A characters abilities are based on what he or she demonstrates he or she can do, not on what someone thought they could do at one time. Thing is like it's been said before... this isn't just stuff wolverine does some of the time..it's stuff he does ALL the damned time...
why do you think discarding stacks and stacks of evidence no matter how much is presented to you, no matter how consistent, makes you correct in your assumptions? 😑
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI'm saying that it seems to be instantaneous for everything, provided his system isn't taxed out and functioning without whatever it draws upon for an energy source.
Isn't that what I'm asking you? 😕
Originally posted by xmarksthespotBecause its based on a characters observation of an ongoing fight. 😬
It's a single panel with questionable relevance to speed of healing since it doesn't actually show him taking the actual damage. Yet he feels the need to do this 🙄.