Originally posted by CreshoskWhy are we using feats that are illogical and contradict each other time and time.
Why are we discarding wolverine's feats in favor of non-wolverine related feats?It makes no sense other than wanting to see wolverine depowered
Lets try this.
Namor has consistantly KO'ed hulk, but couldn't keep wolverien down.
Whats wrong with this picture?
Originally posted by Creshosk
So you're saying there ARE two healing factors?And your own personal opinions have no impact on what's fact. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not true.
You're exagerating my statement agian. I NEVER said that. Quote me to where I said that exactly.
Can you measure the healing factor?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSvFL can happen multiple times but insufficient amount of times not to be a statistical outlier. If Wolverine survived a nuke again it would still be SvFL. PIS is specifically a character lowered for the benefit of making an opponent seem stronger and/or for advancement of a storyline - can happen many times but is still PIS.
I know the difference, Svfl happens once and isn't shown again, PIS happens NUMEROUS times..
Originally posted by Creshosk
His comics would say otherwise. Go read his comics, then give me your opinion on the matter. Because as of right now your opinion on how consistant he is is not a valid source.
His comics say otherwise to FANBOYS, go read the comics and not watch the pictures of the comics, and give me your statement, because your bias isn't valid.
Even jinzin knows that wolverine is inconsistant.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
SvFL can happen multiple times but insufficient amount of times not to be a statistical outlier. If Wolverine survived a nuke again it would still be SvFL. PIS is specifically a character lowered for the benefit of making an opponent seem stronger and/or for advancement of a storyline - can happen many times but is still PIS.
so any feats that had spiderman above the limit of 5 tons after the 1960's is automatically pis then too?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterBecause every character has them. Why are you using the 10% Pis to override the 90% showings?
Why are we using feats that are illogical and contradict each other time and time.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThe problem is you are now using Wolverine SVFL . . . If wolverine had not been knowcked out and been sent flying I would have beleived it.
Lets try this.Namor has consistantly KO'ed hulk, but couldn't keep wolverien down.
Whats wrong with this picture?
Cause that's what Titanus did in the same damn issue. KO'd Hulk, but failed to KO Wolverine.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
SvFL can happen multiple times but insufficient amount of times not to be a statistical outlier. If Wolverine survived a nuke again it would still be SvFL. PIS is specifically a character lowered for the benefit of making an opponent seem stronger and/or for advancement of a storyline - can happen many times but is still PIS.
Showing what the character doesn't have the means for time and time again?
Vs weakening a character for a match got it...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because every character has them. Why are you using the 10% Pis to override the 90% showings?The problem is you are now using Wolverine SVFL . . . If wolverine had not been knowcked out and been sent flying I would have beleived it.
Cause that's what Titanus did in the same damn issue. KO'd Hulk, but failed to KO Wolverine.
Is hulk more durable than wolverine?
Wolverien isn't consistant 90% of the time, seeing as that same month daredevil used a chop to keep him down.
Svfl is still inconsistancy.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotHow important a character was he?
How far does the story get if Wolverine is killed in the first panel?
Are you going to argue for the armies Wolverine tears through? They barely have a name, they have no popularity, and are expendable.
At the time this was true of Wolverine. Why is he an exception?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How far does the story get if Wolverine is killed in the first panel?
as about 7 pages less long, as there was still a dramatic storyline on the side....
it's amazing logan doesn't even get credit for his first appearance... it's sad how much some people hate the lil guy so much.
PIS or not...there comes a point when you simply have to accept something as being within the rangeof a characters abilities..wolverine standing up to and getting up from class 100+ shots is a perfect example of this...
Originally posted by jinzin
so any feats that had spiderman above the limit of 5 tons after the 1960's is automatically pis then too?
No stupid, its in his STATS.
Marvel has spiderman listed as a class 15.
Wolverine lifts 800 lbs.
Is a peak human speed, agility, etc.
He doing things out of this numerous times, is pis and or svfl.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterDon't know. As I think that his healing factor is part of it as well as his skeleton.
Is hulk more durable than wolverine?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd now using Wolverine PIS DD SVFL. . . you prove my point the lesser amount of the time events outweight the majority of events?
Wolverien isn't consistant 90% of the time, seeing as that same month daredevil used a chop to keep him down.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThen Sopiderman is inconsistant to. So what? We use him at his weakest showings? Why do we only use Wolverine at his weakest showings?
Svfl is still inconsistancy.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What on earth are you talking about?
well you just argued logan getting hit by a nuke more than once and not counting because NO MATTER HOW OFTEN PIS IS STILL PIS...
spiderman wasn't as strong in his early days as opposed to his later ones and there was no real explanation for how or why he got stronger, he just sort of...did...for advancement of the plot one would assume...is that then PIS as well..
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAh yes the stats that are discarded when they go against your characters, like Doc Ock. . .
No stupid, its in his STATS.Marvel has spiderman listed as a class 15.
Wolverine lifts 800 lbs.
Is a peak human speed, agility, etc.
He doing things out of this numerous times, is pis and or svfl.
Stats that are like a single showing in a single comic book. Those stats?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Don't know. As I think that his healing factor is part of it as well as his skeleton.And now using Wolverine PIS DD SVFL. . . you prove my point the lesser amount of the time events outweight the majority of events?
Then Sopiderman is inconsistant to. So what? We use him at his weakest showings? Why do we only use Wolverine at his weakest showings?
again taking what I say out of context and not answering anything.
Spiderman is MUCH more consistant than wolverine, and performs within a logical limit of his abilities, get it?
Originally posted by jinzinI think this is the fourth time now: Have you read the PIS rule? Btw I called Wolverine's nuke thing SvFL, statistical outlier. If he does it again it is still a statistical outlier. Again your analogy makes no sense.
well you just argued logan getting hit by a nuke more than once and not counting because NO MATTER HOW OFTEN PIS IS STILL PIS...spiderman wasn't as strong in his early days as opposed to his later ones and there was no real explanation for how or why he got stronger, he just sort of...did...for advancement of the plot one would assume...is that then PIS as well..