Jedi Exile (dark side) vs. Darth Sidious

Started by Darth_Glentract5 pages

That's BS. You're calling upon gameplay.

Darth Nihilius - The Exile had help.
Darth Scion - The Exile broke his will.
Darth Traya - Traya wasn't looking to kill the Exile.

1. He'll have no help here, as this is just Sidious vs The Exile.
2. I'd have to say Sidious possesses more will than Scion. Not likely any chance of willbreaking here.
3. If Sidious didn't have any plans for the Exile, he'd go medieval on his ass.

Sidious wins. He possesses immense power in the Dark Side and has above average lightsaber ability.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
That's BS. You're calling upon gameplay.

That was the point; to prove invalid the use of gameplay for canonical facts.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Darth Nihilius - The Exile had help.
Darth Scion - The Exile broke his will.
Darth Traya - Traya wasn't looking to kill the Exile.

1. He'll have no help here, as this is just Sidious vs The Exile.
2. I'd have to say Sidious possesses more will than Scion. Not likely any chance of willbreaking here.
3. If Sidious didn't have any plans for the Exile, he'd go medieval on his ass.

Sidious wins. He possesses immense power in the Dark Side and has above average lightsaber ability.

Darth Nihilus - He still defeated him. A win is a win.
Darth Sion - You have to kill him at least once before you can break his will.
Darth Traya Kreia - How do you know Traya wasn't trying? She was pratically sucking him when he was a hole in the force. After he killed Nihilus, he was no longer that hole. She may very well have wanted to do away with him.
Darth Traya Atris - She was a member of the Jedi Council and he pwned her.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Darth Nihilus - He still defeated him. A win is a win.

He didn't do it in a 1vs1.


Darth Sion - You have to kill him at least once before you can break his will.

Yes...but what does that tell you ? We don't know how strong Sion is compared to Sidious or [insert random character here].


Darth Traya Kreia - How do you know Traya wasn't trying? She was pratically sucking him when he was a hole in the force. After he killed Nihilus, he was no longer that hole. She may very well have wanted to do away with him.

Assume she was trying. Again we don't know how strong Kreia is...


Darth Traya Atris - She was a member of the Jedi Council and he pwned her.

a)
Atris was the librarian of the Jedi. Something like Jocasta Nu or Yaddle (who got owned by Anakin / a thermaldetonator)

b)
The Handmaiden nearly "pwned" Atris being the weakest of the Echani sisters. So what ?

The Handmaiden wasn't the weakest considering she killed the other five.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
The Handmaiden wasn't the weakest considering she killed the other five.

Where did she do that ? Did I miss something ?

When she attacked them. You don't remember that? Right before she tried to kill Atris but got pwned.

Yeah, the Handmaiden killed all of her sisters in one fight, and then lost horribly to Atris. What game did you play, Nai?

Erm...I just went to check it again and we actually never see the Handmaiden fighting her sisters. I always thougt Atris killed them since you hear them all dying at once and you don't see the fight - and Atris did need the Handmaiden while she didn't need the others.

(Just because Atris walks into the room quite cool without even asking what had happened despite the fact there are 5 dead people lying around there.)

That's an odd assumption to make, when you consider that the Handmaiden is in her ready stance with her weapon drawn and her sisters dead all within close proximity to her.

I played as a woman so I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

Then why comment?

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Then why comment?
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Bored I guess...

Originally posted by Lord Janus
That's an odd assumption to make, when you consider that the Handmaiden is in her ready stance with her weapon drawn and her sisters dead all within close proximity to her.

Well...I never really thought about it since you never see the fight even though you WANT to fight them. So I always thought that Atris walked in and killed them all before the fight starts to get informations from the Handmaiden she needs (having to protect the handmaiden because the sisters might kill her).

And yes...it seems like an odd assumption but I simply never thought that the Handmaiden would be able to kill the sisters (just because I hardly ever used her as a char in groups).

Yeah, I do remember you arguing that Atris was weak because the Handmaiden without a lightsaber could kill her. This is bias based on your gameplay experience. PLay the game again, and make Hanmaiden a jedi.

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Yeah, I do remember you arguing that Atris was weak because the Handmaiden without a lightsaber could kill her. This is bias based on your gameplay experience. PLay the game again, and make Hanmaiden a jedi.

What would making the Handmaiden a Jedi do ?
You have to defeat Atris or at least make her lose all her lifepoints to continue the story.

Atris at least defeats the Handmaiden, yes. But whe don't know if this is a Jedi Handmaiden, a normal handmaiden or (just to exeggerate a little bit) a Handmaiden without weapons and armor.

Canonically, she would be a jedi. Kreia says that the handmaiden revives the order. But I get your idea. Still, don't discredit Atris so easily. For one thing, it's a gameplay mechanic that says Atris must lose hitpoints for the scene to move on; it's not a real life occurence. It's not like Luke was fighting Vader in ESB and when Vader was low on HP he pwned Luke and it went into cutscene.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I don't remember that, but I think Sidious would win. To me, the Exile is just above an average Jedi Master. He's a little better than Kavar. Sidious could take him and the Handmaiden at the same time.

The Dark Jedi Exile is what Darth Nihilus became,a ****ing anti-Force Demigod Walking Void that can be only killed by other Wounds in the Force.

And if you want to explain you,I shall use the conception based on Nihilus,since she became in the dark side ending a Darth Nihilus v.2.0

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I don't remember that, but I think Sidious would win. To me, the Exile is just above an average Jedi Master. He's a little better than Kavar. Sidious could take him and the Handmaiden at the same time.

There was nothing standard about the Exile. Not being declared a master doesn't indicate your strength.

She does deserve some credit... After all she took the entire Trayus Academy,both Sion(in good talker mod. Because only Sion can kill really Sion) and Traya(really fairly). And if anyone doesn't agree with what I am saying,Traya was amped by the Core of Malachor V and gave her extra-power to fight The Jedi Exile(after all Malachor V was a dark side nexus as far as I recall) But I have to admit that when the Exile came to face him,Nihilus was already starved,drained,exhausted and weak...