What can stop Richards/Summers Families

You forgot Alpha Beast...

superman, sentry, hyperion, thor, and Bizzaro might defeat em

Originally posted by WAF3001
superman, sentry, hyperion, thor, and Bizzaro might defeat em

I don't think any physical being could defeat that team. Galactus would get completely wrecked, no matter how "fully powered" he is. You'd really have to go to the greatest abstracts in Marvel and DC to have a chance, or devices like HOTU or IG or the M'Kraan Crystal. We're talking Lucifer with HOTU and Michael with IG and Great Evil Beast and the like...

Originally posted by outavodka
they would now, would they...juz them.. and i ment to put hyperstorm n put hyperion by mistake and i felt if i put alphabeast it be harder to par more challegers i mean i already got pheniox, Cable,Rachel,and Styfe and franklin up there.

X was making fun of you 😂 There IS no alpha beast 😂

And i have no doubt Thanos with the IG would simply annihilate them.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
X was making fun of you 😂 There IS no alpha beast 😂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, there is... 😏 B.S. comics #4426 wasn't it? I'll have to ask c17.

😂 you're a bastard. Leave the poor guy alone, he'll be embarassed. (i can't believe the poor guy actually thought you were serious and said "I didn't include alpha beast because..."

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
😂 you're a bastard. Leave the poor guy alone, he'll be embarassed. (i can't believe the poor guy actually thought you were serious and said "I didn't include alpha beast because..."

~wickerman~

Originally posted by demigawd
I don't think any physical being could defeat that team. Galactus would get completely wrecked, no matter how "fully powered" he is. You'd really have to go to the greatest abstracts in Marvel and DC to have a chance, or devices like HOTU or IG or the M'Kraan Crystal. We're talking Lucifer with HOTU and Michael with IG and Great Evil Beast and the like...

I don't know. Galactus by himself no, but if he had allies like I mentioned earlier, Tyrant, Watcher, most powerful Celestials. then phoenix is what makes the difference. The rest of the Richards/Summers team, including Franklin Rchards, would go down very quickly.

If the summers clan are at full power then nothing short of HOTU is going to do it.

You have Phoenix, Rachel who at full power can tap into a phoenix potential, Franklin who is Celestial level.

The others would just be gnats to anyone skyfather level and above.

GS, I thought PF was stronger than HOTU ??

Originally posted by ImmortalOne
GS, I thought PF was stronger than HOTU ??

The Phoenix Force like HOTU (apparently) is gods power however this thread is talking about Jean who is an avatar of said power. Thats why i say nothing short of that is going to be enough to go against Jean at full power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Phoenix Force like HOTU (apparently) is gods power however this thread is talking about Jean who is an avatar of said power. Thats why i say nothing short of that is going to be enough to go against Jean at full power.

Woah woah, i could SWEAR i saw you in another thread saying she's not an avatar of a separate entity named the Phoenix, but that she was born with the Gene to evolve to Phoenix. ........so she IS Phoenix. Ok.......WHAT? [/genuinely confused]

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Woah woah, i could SWEAR i saw you in another thread saying she's not an avatar of a separate entity named the Phoenix, but that she was born with the Gene to evolve to Phoenix. ........so she IS Phoenix. Ok.......WHAT? [/genuinely confused]

~wickerman~

You have confused avatar with host. An avatar is an incarnation of something a representation of something as opposed to a host which just houses something. Jean has a mutation which bonds her to the power genetically she is phoenix. The power is only called phoenix because of the avatars, it is gods creation power. Jean chose the name phoenix because it was symbolic of her rebirth. The power then went on to be called the phoenix force.

Jean is incarnated into reality to carry out her phoenix work. She follows the orders of the Crown consciousness (God) As she is representing the creation power of God, nothing short of the power of god is going to cut it. Do you understand?

So many people are confused about the concept. Im going to make a thread in the near future (when i can muster the effort) which will lay down all i know about the concept, all that is shown in the comics.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have confused avatar with host. An avatar is an incarnation of something a representation of something as opposed to a host which just houses something. Jean has a mutation which bonds her to the power genetically she is phoenix. The power is only called phoenix because of the avatars, it is gods creation power. Jean chose the name phoenix because it was symbolic of her rebirth. The power then went on to be called the phoenix force.

Jean is incarnated into reality to carry out her phoenix work. She follows the orders of the Crown consciousness (God) As she is representing the creation power of God, nothing short of the power of god is going to cut it. Do you understand?

😂 I'm very familiar with the terms of Avatar and proxy, as is any heavy DnD-er 😉

But yeah, i understand now, thanks.

~wickerman~

the one above all
the heart of the universe
the infinite being
true beyonders
living tribunal

but thas about it, things like the infinity gauntlett dont stand a chance against franklin{btw adult franklin was called psi lord and did not really posess the potential that current child franklin displays}

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have confused avatar with host. An avatar is an incarnation of something a representation of something as opposed to a host which just houses something. Jean has a mutation which bonds her to the power genetically she is phoenix. The power is only called phoenix because of the avatars, it is gods creation power. Jean chose the name phoenix because it was symbolic of her rebirth. The power then went on to be called the phoenix force.

Jean is incarnated into reality to carry out her phoenix work. She follows the orders of the Crown consciousness (God) As she is representing the creation power of God, nothing short of the power of god is going to cut it. Do you understand?

you dont wanna start that stupid argument again gs, even the infinity gauntlett can probably give omega jean trouble, and once and for all, her powers are not that of the one above all.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the one above all
the heart of the universe
the infinite being
true beyonders
living tribunal

but thas about it, things like the infinity gauntlett dont stand a chance against franklin{btw adult franklin was called psi lord and did not really posess the potential that current child franklin displays}

You know nothing of the true beyonders to place them above the living tribunal. All you know is that they are beyond our multiverse in a pocket dimension and they are behind the cosmic cubes.

The infinity being is not current continuity and he and his power was fragmented into the infinity gauntlet. He is not above LT.

As expected you have missed out Phoenix out of spite however knowledgeable readers know the true story. Its current continuity deal with it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Tribunal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Beings

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the one above all
the heart of the universe
the infinite being
true beyonders
living tribunal

but thas about it, things like the infinity gauntlett dont stand a chance against franklin{btw adult franklin was called psi lord and did not really posess the potential that current child franklin displays}