Originally posted by Superherovandal
But what proof is there that Phoenix can actually create the multiverse. She has only shown the ability to destroy universes. Not one feat of hers shows the power you say. She held a universe in her hand. Not multiversal if you ask me.
Its actually stated in the comics you need only read Xmen Forever to know that the natural beginning and end of a universe is through phoenix. The white hot room is beyond all of creation, from there Jean viewed the alternate realities of the multiverse she viewed different timelines and saw what would happen if she didnt amputate the "Here comes tomorrow" future from the 616 universe. Therefore she did and then she telekinetically restructured its time and space whilst holding it within the palm of her hand. That is one of the best examples of multiversal power you can ask for.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B The white hot room is beyond all of creation, from there Jean viewed the alternate realities of the multiverse she viewed different timelines and saw what would happen if she didnt amputate the "Here comes tomorrow" future from the 616 universe. [/B]
You mean the White Hot Room Roma was afraid Magneto Prime was going to end up destroying?
Yup, that one!
Magneto Prime gives Phoenix a omniversal scale stroke!
Originally posted by demigawdAlpha Beast only wanted to make Magneto Prime think that he managed that - when in reality it was Magneto Prime that was being manipulated to think that he was making everyone think that 😏. Read BS Comics #2375 Alpha Beast almost managed to take down JP - Magneto Prime wouldn't last five seconds against JP or Alpha Beast.
Magneto Prime is so powerful he made everybody forget that Alpha Beast ever existed. even in the real world.Top that, bitches!
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I have in my posession the entire Lucifer series in digital form. I'll quite happily post the appropriate evidence if you wish. 😉It was indeed a universe
POWERS AND WEAPONS
Lucifer is omnipotent, he can create his own universes on a whim, create life and create entire concepts like 'Time' from scratch.
His power is incalculable. He stood on ground zero of the demiurgic explosion, the explosion that could wipe out a multiverse, and didn't even get a tan.
The only thing he cannot do is create his own multiverse alone, he needs his brother Michael to do that.
Only his brother Michael is his equal in power, and only God is superior to both of them.
But the power Lucifer likes to use most is his brain, his devious bastardness allow him to defeat gods even when he is mortal and powerless.
Originally posted by armandovalles
there's only a few beings or entities who could take out these families alone:The Infinity Gauntlet
The Living Tribunal
The Scarlet Witch (current)
This is joke, right. What do you need to understand about Phoenix part.
And who the **** is Scarlet Witch here, what the **** is she doing here.
She is litteraly less then insect against any being you mentioned here.
Originally posted by demigawd
She's not fake! You can't make an illusion of people being alive! Apoc lived again! Hawkeye lived again! Magneto Prime owns the Marvel Universe!
Actully it could be all powerful illsuion, I tis known for powerful illsuion to have affect like this one. Maybe it is an illusion, and t could be. So they can make it.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Bullcrap. Franklin is nowhere near on the level of the abstracts. And who's to say which abstracts are above the others meaning phoenix may not be able to take them either.
Pheonix alone would be enough, you still don't understand who Phoenix is (didn't Phoenix create abstracts). And Demigawd, it's disaster what are you saying, it made me sick.
Originally posted by demigawd
Don't be mad that Magneto Prime would own the Phoenix! He's more powerful than the Alpha Beast
😘 😘
Originally posted by Xplosive
Actully it could be all powerful illsuion, I tis known for powerful illsuion to have affect like this one. Maybe it is an illusion, and t could be. So they can make it.
Illusions don't beat people up, like Apocalypse did to Namor.
And don't hate on Magneto Prime because he can beat both Phoenix and the Alpha Beast with one hand tied behind his back. Magneto Prime's power was on its way to reaching the White Hot Room itself. Going beyond the confines of the multiverse. That's beyond the Phoenix!
Originally posted by demigawd
Illusions don't beat people up, like Apocalypse did to Namor.And don't hate on Magneto Prime because he can beat both Phoenix and the Alpha Beast with one hand tied behind his back. Magneto Prime's power was on its way to reaching the White Hot Room itself. Going beyond the confines of the multiverse. That's beyond the Phoenix!
Nothing is beyond Phoenix, Pheonix is aspect of TOAA, nothign can top that, except God.
All in all, we will find out quite soon.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Yeah but they are entirely different multiverses. And they need each other to create a multiverse not a unverse. Both of them could create a universe with absurd ease.
I have argued thes points on numerous occasions, its just funny 😂 be careful peoplr will start a hate campain of ims about you if you defy the Phoenix force 😂
Originally posted by supremthor
POWERS AND WEAPONSLucifer is omnipotent, he can create his own universes on a whim, create life and create entire concepts like 'Time' from scratch.
His power is incalculable. He stood on ground zero of the demiurgic explosion, the explosion that could wipe out a multiverse, and didn't even get a tan.
The only thing he cannot do is create his own multiverse alone, he needs his brother Michael to do that.
Only his brother Michael is his equal in power, and only God is superior to both of them.
But the power Lucifer likes to use most is his brain, his devious bastardness allow him to defeat gods even when he is mortal and powerless.
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