What can stop Richards/Summers Families

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The very definition of Crown in terms of Kaballah its very role is that it is Gods consciousness (The same God of Christianity, Islam, Judaism just from a different perspective). Phoenix as featured in the comics is dealt with in terms of Kaballah like it or loathe it. If the comic says Jean works for and draws power from the Crown then that means God.

Xmen Forever showed that Phoenix is the constant of creation. It keeps the creation cycle going. All of the abstracts and Galactus are merely the evolved humanity of the previous universe.. Phoenix is responsible for creation and it steers evolution towards a convergence with the omega point. At this point everything ends before creation is started again by Phoenix. All of this was stated in the comic explicitly. The comic showed that if the Stranger harnessed the phoenix power then he would be able to speed up the process and emerge in the new creation as the supreme being beyond all including LT.

The fact that LT was shown on a number of occassions to be concerned about the Strangers plans and that he was one of those to be absorbed shows you that ultimately it is a multiversal process or which makes sense because how else would LT be humbled? The H.O.T.U mentioned nothing of the multiverse and the range of its power was shown on panel to be universal yet it was potent enough to deal with LT.

Thanos said HOTU was gods power so whats the difference between that and Phoenix being called the Crowns power?

ill answer all ur queries in a day, right now im busy{oh n i do have an answer to ur silly questions}

there's only a few beings or entities who could take out these families alone:

The One Above All
The Spectre w/ Host Hal Jordan
The Presence
The Infinity Gauntlet
The Heart of the Universe
The Living Tribunal
The Scarlet Witch (current)

That's pretty much everyone in my opinion.

Originally posted by armandovalles
there's only a few beings or entities who could take out these families alone:

The Scarlet Witch (current)

That's pretty much everyone in my opinion.

That's MAGNETO PRIME!!!!

😄

Originally posted by armandovalles
there's only a few beings or entities who could take out these families alone:

The One Above All
The Spectre w/ Host Hal Jordan
The Presence
The Infinity Gauntlet
The Heart of the Universe
The Living Tribunal
The Scarlet Witch (current)

That's pretty much everyone in my opinion.

In a crossover a battle between Phoenix and Spectre would be debatable. They both work for God. If Phoenix was out of control and acting against her role then probably Spectre and vice versa.

The infinity Gauntlet gives ultimate power over the six aspects of the universe. It allows omnipotence over a reality. That is nothing to the white crown phoenix who can crush a universe within her hand and has multiversal power.

The living tribunal is a peer of the White Crown phoenix. They both work for something far greater than themselves. However Phoenix is the only constant in creation. LTs role and position in the scheme of things can be usurped (as shown in Xmen Forever). Jeans cannot. As the white crown phoenix her power extends over creation down to a sub atomic level. She keeps the creation process going on and on forever.

Current Scarlet Witch is a non factor.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Current Scarlet Witch is a non factor.

I'm waiting for the end of HOM to decide that!

Originally posted by demigawd
I'm waiting for the end of HOM to decide that!

Dont do this to yourself Demi. She's a fake, Magneto Primes lame 😈

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont do this to yourself Demi. She's a fake, Magneto Primes lame 😈

She's not fake! You can't make an illusion of people being alive! Apoc lived again! Hawkeye lived again! Magneto Prime owns the Marvel Universe!

Originally posted by demigawd
She's not fake! You can't make an illusion of people being alive! Apoc lived again! Hawkeye lived again! Magneto Prime owns the Marvel Universe!

They might not have been truly dead in the first place which would have allowed Wandas power to affect them. 😉

I really cant wait for issue 8. That'll learn ya!!

Why is she called Magneto Prime... that's like saying that in the X2 William Stryker's casting the illusion over Xavier.
Add to the list of dead people brought back by Wanda, Mad Jim Jaspers.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is she called Magneto Prime... that's like saying that in the X2 William Stryker's casting the illusion over Xavier.
Add to the list of dead people brought back by Wanda, Mad Jim Jaspers.

Demi coined the phrase. Go on join in tell him its lame!!!!!!

Too soon to tell what it really is. It's not an illusion though - too many dead people brought back to life with personal consciousnesses.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Too soon to tell what it really is. It's not an illusion though - too many dead people brought back to life with personal consciousnesses.

The dead people might not actually be really dead. I bet after H of M all of said people are found to be alive and well.

But lets wait and see.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
They might not have been truly dead in the first place which would have allowed Wandas power to affect them. 😉

I really cant wait for issue 8. That'll learn ya!!

Hawkeye was dead! DEAD! Doom was dead! DEAD! Gwen - DEAD! Apocalypse - DEAD!

Now they're not. Especially Gwen. A miracle only Magneto Prime could pull off!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is she called Magneto Prime... that's like saying that in the X2 William Stryker's casting the illusion over Xavier.
Add to the list of dead people brought back by Wanda, Mad Jim Jaspers.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Demi coined the phrase. Go on join in tell him its lame!!!!!!

Don't be mad that Magneto Prime would own the Phoenix! He's more powerful than the Alpha Beast

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The dead people might not actually be really dead. I bet after H of M all of said people are found to be alive and well.

But lets wait and see.

Originally posted by demigawd
What do you mean?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

It's Wanda Prime. 😄 Her powers and her mind kept in check by Dr Strange and Xavier respectively until they could do so no longer and the world went white. He is the mastermind (Stryker) to her retarded but incredibly powerful multicoloured-eyed crazy cripple (Jason). 😄

You missed Excalibur! Wanda could only affect reality in pockets on her own. It required a combination of Magneto's powers to expand across the entire physical universe, which is why the effects got amped the way it did when Magneto took her into custody. Magneto started toying with reality in the last issue of Excalibur by using her powers. He took it to the next level to kick off HoM. And given that Magneto, aside from using his powers in concert with hers, was the architect of that theory, he gets credit!

Originally posted by demigawd
You missed Excalibur! Wanda could only affect reality in pockets on her own. It required a combination of Magneto's powers to expand across the entire physical universe, which is why the effects got amped the way it did when Magneto took her into custody. Magneto started toying with reality in the last issue of Excalibur by using her powers. He took it to the next level to kick off HoM. And given that Magneto, aside from using his powers in concert with hers, was the architect of that theory, he gets credit!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Bah! They're her powers! Besides according to some rumours Wanda's poised to become the Sorceress Supreme of Earth - if that happens it nullifies your whole Magneto theory. 😄

It's ALSO her powers. And if she becomes the Sorceress Supreme, then it proves my theory - if she retained omnipotence after HoM, then she wouldn't be a very interesting character, would she? But if separated from Magneto, then she'd revert to her Avengers Disassembled state, which was more Proteus level than LT level.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No one, except The One Above All, The Heart Of The Universe.
Franklin and Phoenix would be more than enough to crush them.

Bullcrap. Franklin is nowhere near on the level of the abstracts. And who's to say which abstracts are above the others meaning phoenix may not be able to take them either.

Alpha Beast would beat them.

Lucifer, Micheal, Wally the God Boy, LT, HOTU, The Source, 5D imps, TGEB, TOAA. full powered Spectre.