Maybe I wrote that wrong. I said Dooku utilized the weakness of Djen So in his fight with Anakin and noted its weakness was a lack of mobility. I was commenting back to the Anakin/Obi-Wan could fight Yoda as long as Dooku did. I said Obi-Wan would be toast and Anakin, as Dooku noted, had a lock of mobility. Lack of mobility vs. fastest duelist aliva (Yoda) equals dead Anakin.
But Nikkolas, if you still belive the A>B>C rule than Ani can beat Yoda. However, i dont think he could beat him. At least not at the time of ROTS..maybe after a few more years. I mean his power doubled in 2.5 - 3 years to an incredible amount. However, Yoda would pwn both of them. But Anakin would do alot better than OB1 for sure.
OK , when i say pwned, i essentially mean killed. He did not "hold his own". He protected himself until Yoda tired himself out and he had the time to distract him to run like a hoe. So with saying that, how am I being any kind of a fanboy? Fanboy of who? That's your area of expertise. You have to face the facts that at the time of ROTS Anakin was the most powerful, just didn't have the experience, as stated by GL. Dooku was an example. He was a sub par Sith whose ONLY role was to show that a Sith apprentice could also turn Jedi to the Darkside. Also stated by GL in the ROTS commentary. He was saying that after Maul was killed (who was to be a beast of a warrior) that he brought Dooku in for the reasons i just stated. So he wasn't a uber powerful character, or even a pivotal character. He was brought in to show that Sith have attributes beside rage, and to die. Thats it. Get over it. You Dooku fanboys need a new role model. Since you all like to talk about him being so fast vs OB1 in the OT, then accept the fact that your precious Chris Lee couldn't even do his own work, whereas Sir Alec Guiness did. THATS the only reason Dooku looks fast and I don't give a f*ck what you all say about it. And as much as you like to compare an 80 year old actor's credentials against a 24 year old Hayden's, why don't you try to compare him to Alec? You can't. Has Christopher Lee been knighted? I think not. I wonder why that is...hmmm. Yes, I believe that Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one of the Star Wars universe, and the ONE character that the ENTIRE saga was about, could and would fair longer and better against Yoda, than your precious Dooku. I'm done.
What? Why must you insult Christopher Lee. No, he is not a knight but he is a CBE. For those who dont know that means Commander Of the British Empire. You can hardly hold the fact that he didnt do his own duels against him. He was in his 80's and what GL wanted the duel to look like would be physically impossible for him to do. Its not from lack of experience, like I said Mr Lee probably had more sword fighting experience than anyone on set (bar maybe Nick Gillard). Throw Alec Guiness into the PT and he wouldnt be able to his own duels either so stfu. Finally, of course you can compare Lee's and Guinness' credentials. In fact I would say that Lee's are better. In the IMDb database Christopher Lee has been credited in 257 movies. Guinness only 64. Mr Lee was made famous by his role as Dracula, Francisco Scaramanga, Count Dooku, Saruman and many more. He was also offered the role of Grand Moff Tarkin but he turned it down. The only role that Guiness played that sticks in my mind is Kenobi (although I must say he did do a good Kenobi).
So next time stfu and think before you go badmouthing Christopher Lee. 😠
OK , when i say pwned, i essentially mean killed. He did not "hold his own". He protected himself until Yoda tired himself out and he had the time to distract him to run like a hoe
You realize that was the most flagrantly bias assessment of that fight I’ve ever read? So, he didn’t hold his own..he just kept up with Yoda and didn’t die and wasn’t outmatched. I see... Interestinv viewpoint, that. Any substantiation other than Dooku couldn’t best Yoda? And Yoda couldn’t best Dooku? What? Oh, it was a stalemate as I have said all along?
So with saying that, how am I being any kind of a fanboy? Fanboy of who? That's your area of expertise. You have to face the facts that at the time of ROTS Anakin was the most powerful, just didn't have the experience, as stated by GL. Dooku was an example. He was a sub par Sith whose ONLY role was to show that a Sith apprentice could also turn Jedi to the Darkside.
Oh. I see. A sub-par Sith. Darth Maul was the greatest warrior alive.... Dooku was said to be one of the best Jedi ever to grace the Jedi Order. All because he’s sub-par...
Also stated by GL in the ROTS commentary. He was saying that after Maul was killed (who was to be a beast of a warrior) that he brought Dooku in for the reasons i just stated. So he wasn't a uber powerful character, or even a pivotal character. He was brought in to show that Sith have attributes beside rage, and to die.
1. Then most of the PT are non-pivotal characters. Mace is not pivotal. Non-pivotal means anything?
2. Oh yes, Maul and Sidious/Palpatine just radiated rage....They were frothing at the mouth. Give me a break.
Thats it. Get over it. You Dooku fanboys need a new role model. Since you all like to talk about him being so fast vs OB1 in the OT, then accept the fact that your precious Chris Lee couldn't even do his own work, whereas Sir Alec Guiness did. THATS the only reason Dooku looks fast and I don't give a f*ck what you all say about it.[/quote]
Um...Alec was in his 60s when ANH was made. Lee was 80. And GL ****ING COMPLIMENTS Lee in the commentary in ROTS about Lee trying his best to do the scene but he simply couldn’t... So, you can take that bias and shove it up your ass.
And as much as you like to compare an 80 year old actor's credentials against a 24 year old Hayden's, why don't you try to compare him to Alec? You can't. Has Christopher Lee been knighted? I think not. I wonder why that is...hmmm[/quote]
Oh. What an honor. Mick Jagger, a known drug addict, was also knighted. Also know who was considered for knighthood? Ozzy Osbourne - the man who was documented drinking another man’s piss when on a high. Yes, a real honor.
Yes, I believe that Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one of the Star Wars universe, and the ONE character that the ENTIRE saga was about, could and would fair longer and better against Yoda, than your precious Dooku. I'm done.
So, being the most important character means he’s better than any other.. Interesting. Djen So, a style noted for its lack of mobility and defense relying totally on brutal offense, is his style and I kinda think those weaknesses in his form would lead to his death by Yoda.
1. Stalemate is to imply equality..Dooku was not Yoda's equal...ever.
2. First off, I never said Maul was the greatest, i don't really like him. But his role was to be a warrior, nothing more, and Dooku was to show the opposite of that. Did you ever see him do anything great? No. Wow, lightning...a rip off of Palps.
3. You're right, Mace wasn't pivotal. Never claimed he was. He was a character ina scene where Anakin made a pivotal change, thats it.
4. You're going to sit there and tell me that Maul wasn't full of rage?? He's the ONLY one to always have the Sith eyes...out of rage..nd yes, once Palps revealed himself as a sith, he was pretty ruthless.
5. I bet you do want o stick something in my ass, tool box. 😘 However your sexuality isn't the debate here. I know Lee did all he could, as did Alec. But because they didn't have the technology they do now, Alecs fight was slow...but he still did everything himself though, not to discredit Lee. Alec also had health concerns and a 60 year old then isn't the same as one now...i know 60 year olds that run marathons. Such wasn't the case in the 70's.
6. Yes, being knighted in modern times is an honor. Ozzy and Mick, whose music has touched the lives of MILLIONS for years, were chosen despite their personal battles of addiction. Do you think you would ever be knighted if you were British? probably not. And doesn't that make you think, that two drug addicts were considered for such an honor, when people as intelligent and worldly as you are passed over...hmmm. Thats just jealousy.
7. And yes, being that the main character is meant to be more important and powerful than the rest...he is better. As I've said NUMEROUS times, i don't think that at the time of ROTS, that Anakin could beat Yoda. Reading comprehension is your friend. I said that according to your ABC bullshit logic, than he should be able to. However, even thought he would lose, he would last longer and do better than Dooku....and you can argue with fanboyism all you want, you wont change that.
Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
Yeah, looks my job is over. I revived the thread to help cause an effort to prove Vader > Tyrannus, and my job has worked. Yeah!!!
Lol, you have proved that ROTS Anakin is better than Dooku. But I still stand strong in my unbias belief that Dooku would be the victor in a battle against Vader. But lets not start again now, there are already about 576 posts on the matter. I say we should agree to disagree, what do you say?