Darth Vader versus Darth Tyranus

Im guessing it was built by the medical droids which healed him - probably with some input by Sids who was standing nearby. There is no evidence that you have provided that suggests otherwise.

and theres no evidense to support your saying of the droids who built them, and droids arent designers, it was sidious who insturcted the droids to build him that way

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
[B]Anakin kicked his ass fair and square. GL already said as much. No point in arguing. B]

ummm where is Lucas quoted to have said this???

The suit was built to keep Vader alive. The medical droids job was to keep him alive - therefore it is safe to say they made the suit. All the special features would have come from Sids who was overseeing the operation.

and may i know who designed the suit? show me a quote where it said they designed his suit

in RotDL Vader said he destroyed the med droids who built his suit.

A team of droids rebuilt Vader in an Imperial rehabilitation center on Coruscant, adding cybernetic components to his body and encasing him in black armor.

There, the SW databank clearly states that it was the droids that built the suit. You were saying 😛

i said DESIGNED the suit, there is a differnece between BUILT and DESIGN!!! and even if the droids designed it, some one programed them to do so!!! and it was palpatine

Lol, you are getting to much in detail. Unless you can provide a quote my canon statement stays.

yes and obviously some one designed the suit, and i believed it was palpatine, droids follow orders, you tell them to draw a square they draw a square, get it?

I know what you are saying but I think you are wrong. It was the droids job to save Vaders life, hence the fact they made the suit. It would be useless if you had to tell a droid to do every single thing - it almost defeats the purpose. It was the droids who made the suit - and they must have designed it. Sidious wouldnt know about medical procedures and how to save someones life.

still palpatine would know the configuration of the suit, and the idea of a helmet didnt just pop up in the driods protocol, it came from some where, not the driods for sure

Fair enough. But to assume that Sidious had knowledge of the suit and even having created the suit beforehand is ludicrous. He did not know, nor wanted Anakin to take a lava bath on Mustafar. Therefore there is no wayhe could have had any knowledge of the suit beforehand.

well he knew anakin would kill him if he had not got injured, thats for sure

Originally posted by LightElement
well he knew anakin would kill him if he had not got injured, thats for sure

He was counting on it, he WANTED Anakin to do it. Matter of fact, Palps was severely dissapointed that Anakin had to be put in a suit.

Originally posted by Blax X
He was counting on it, he WANTED Anakin to do it. Matter of fact, Palps was severely dissapointed that Anakin had to be put in a suit.

again prove that sidious wanted anakin to kill him, sidious has been planning to kill the jedi and rule the galaxy, why the hell would he want some one else to take over that role after decades of plotting

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
ummm where is Lucas quoted to have said this???

ROTS commentary. "when he's strong enough, which he proves to be by killing Dooku, he's ready to make him his apprentice."

Now dumbasses can argue this with invalid interrpetations, but you cant test someone by not having someone go all out on them. Dooku was fighting for his life, and ya know what...we settled this already. If you want to see the arguments, read the thread.

Originally posted by LightElement
again prove that sidious wanted anakin to kill him, sidious has been planning to kill the jedi and rule the galaxy, why the hell would he want some one else to take over that role after decades of plotting

is in here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sidious go read it.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Possibly. But I would say Dooku thinks the same. he has to much pride to lose a duel. Although Dooku would probably retreat if he thought he was losing (as shown in AOTC) whereas Vader might fight to the death. Although not knowing your limits could be your downfall.

Lol. Dooku still had good in him. Yes he was a sith but he was fighting for what he thought was right - an uncorrupt Republic. He was also a respected jedi master before he turned to evil. So you can hardly say Vader is going to have an 'uncanny advantage' because he still feels good in him.

Are you saying that Dooku creating the army for both sides of the war and splitting the Galactic Republic did not aid in the sith success? Vader was extremely important sure - but Dooku was just as powerful in status.

No Dooku did not have good in him. And GL said that no one thats evil believes theyre evil. Palpatine was doing what he thought was right (it in the commentary, go listen) so you gonna say theres good in palps? I think not. Dooku was doing what best suited him and the Sith. Vader always had good in him and only reason he didnt stop is like GL said, he knows he gone too far to go back. I think he has a balance (of sorts) between light and dark(obviously the dark is more prominant) but he feeds off both. Unless you can prove that Dooku had good in him, i'll never believe it.

Yes Dooku helping create the clones helped, but tat was Sidious' plan, not his, and he killed no Jedi compared to what Vader and Sidious did. That was what i was getting at..Vader did what no one else could. Could Dooku have walked into the Jedi Temple and survived, let alone kill allthe jedi? I'll say no.

Actually he meant strong enough as in he could slay a defenceless person!!