Originally posted by Rampant ox
He is slow, simple as that. Even in ESB he was slow - especially compared to the jedi of the PT.
i said body reflexs, not his strikes
Originally posted by Rampant ox
They werent exactly quick strikes. Dooku is far faster than that - as vividly shown in the PT. Stop arguing against fact.
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yes they were, they are considered quick, yes dookus parrys are much faster, but i said vaders physical strength and custamised form makes up for his speed and enhances his striked
Originally posted by Rampant ox
How can he strike fast but be moving slowly (which is body motion in case you try to argue)? It sounds like you are talking more sh*t to compensate for Vader lack of speed. [/B]
then read this, it will wtf own you pernamently, firstly the hands are faster than the body movements, common sense, we saw it in TESB, he struke luke quickly and with powerful blows which sent luke to the ground,
now read this, i took it from another site
------In his mechanical life-support suit, it would be difficult to engage in the energetic acrobatics of Ataru. For the remainder of his life, he would maintain his mastery of Form V Djem So and Shien. Vader then introduced more elements from Form III Soresu and Form IV Ataru swordplay into his customized style, as witnessed by Jedi Master Roan Shryne when Bol Chatak dueled with the Dark Lord. It was noted that he would often employ powerful vertical strikes to wear an opponent down.
Taking the proper lessons from his loss to Kenobi, he apparently learned how to control his emotions when in combat, finding a way to call upon the power of the dark side while not being blinded by emotions run amok.
Around 3.5 ABY, Vader had ordered ASP-19 droids, lightsaber combat droids based off the ASP-series droid, produced to fight him in sparring matches. They were faster and stronger than an ordinary man, and programmed with the knowledge of a hundred sword masters and a dozen fighting styles. Vader defeated them time and again, and ordered a new, improved batch of them. They were getting too easy to defeat, even in a two-on-one match.
Vader's son, Luke was able to hold up against the Dark Lord for some time on Bespin. Onboard the second Death Star, Luke mirrored Darth Vader's own Form V technique and responded with his own furious demonstration of Form V's raw power. The sudden increase in his son's power caught Vader off guard and overwhelmed the Dark Lord. Finally, Luke was able to duel Vader on an even footing, and defeated the experienced Dark Lord.
there you go, some of them came from vader: the ultimate guide, a canon source book