Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Manifesting in a person is very different then a person being good or evil.
* then you don't really agree that what we do reflects what we are...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you have no delusions at all? You have no superstitions? Even I am afraid of heights and the dark.
* having a phobia is entirely different from delusions and superstitions, you got it all mixed up...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don’t believe in the supernatural.
* then you're not a Buddhist...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please explain.
* simple, you're saying when i keep an old object, it automatically means i worshipping it? that's one of the dumbest things i've ever heard...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I disagree. I was just illustrating the word game.
* then, it's really irrelevant...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you think science is fantasy? Then this internet we are using to talk half way around the world is fantasy?
* the Big Bang does not represent the totality of science, get a grip, bro...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Life and the universe are self sustaining.
* even stars die out, you can't prove that universe is self-sustaining...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That was my point.
* my point too...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is a big difference between a mistake and being good or evil.
* and all people are capable of doing it...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Could Hitler do good?
* could? yes... could Hitler do good? you answer...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When you ask me to stop singling out Christianity it tells me that what I am saying is effective. You are simply encouraging me. 😉
* very typical... now i'm sure how judgmental you really are... 😉
Originally posted by peejayd
* then you don't really agree that what we do reflects what we are...
Wrongful thinking leads to wrongful actions, and rightful thinking leads to rightful actions.
The statement that you are what you eat is very true, but if you eat a potato, you do not become a potato. What you are saying to me is that we are potatoes.
Originally posted by peejayd
* having a phobia is entirely different from delusions and superstitions, you got it all mixed up...
Perhaps, but the results are the same. What you believe shapes the world you know.
Originally posted by peejayd
* then you're not a Buddhist...
There are types of Buddhism that believe in the supernatural, but the type of Buddhism I believe in does not emphasize those aspects. We believe in practical Buddhism in everyday life. There are people within my group who believe in supernatural, but there is no requirement to believe or not. I personally do not believe in supernatural and everything about my practice makes total sense without the supernatural. Can you say the same thing about your beliefs?
Originally posted by peejayd
* simple, you're saying when i keep an old object, it automatically means i worshipping it? that's one of the dumbest things i've ever heard...
If you hold attachments to objects, you are breaking a fundamental rule within Christianity to not have idols. Your god wants all of your time and devotion. After all, you worship a jealous god.
As far as I am concerned, I don’t care about idolatry one way or the other. I simple realize that attachments lead to suffering. Therefore I choose my attachments carefully.
Originally posted by peejayd
* then, it's really irrelevant...
Not at all. You seem to like the word game.
Originally posted by peejayd
* the Big Bang does not represent the totality of science, get a grip, bro...
I never said that, but your statement made it sound like you do not believe in the scientific method.
Originally posted by peejayd
* even stars die out, you can't prove that universe is self-sustaining...
Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
Originally posted by peejayd
* my point too...
*
Originally posted by peejayd
* and all people are capable of doing it...
*
Originally posted by peejayd
* could? yes... could Hitler do good? you answer...
Hitler was a Buddha who was on a path of evil. We are all Buddhas and the path we take is the path we choose.
Originally posted by peejayd
* very typical... now i'm sure how judgmental you really are... 😉
Because I tell you to not be so sensitive, means I’m judgmental? That does not make any sense. You have not given me a compelling reason, or any at all, to stop being critical of Christianity.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Wrongful thinking leads to wrongful actions, and rightful thinking leads to rightful actions.The statement that you are what you eat is very true, but if you eat a potato, you do not become a potato. What you are saying to me is that we are potatoes.
* you are creating a fallacy... you keep on bringing up things with blatantly wrong parallelisms and analogies... the statement "who we are reflects on what we do" is NOT equal to the statement "we are what we eat"... please compose yourself, bro...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Perhaps, but the results are the same. What you believe shapes the world you know.
* basically, they're different... nuff said...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are types of Buddhism that believe in the supernatural, but the type of Buddhism I believe in does not emphasize those aspects. We believe in practical Buddhism in everyday life. There are people within my group who believe in supernatural, but there is no requirement to believe or not. I personally do not believe in supernatural and everything about my practice makes total sense without the supernatural.
* what a loose doctrine...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you say the same thing about your beliefs?
* nope, only makes my belief more believable...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you hold attachments to objects, you are breaking a fundamental rule within Christianity to not have idols. Your god wants all of your time and devotion. After all, you worship a jealous god.
* as if Buddhism does not require any time or devotion... you're so biased...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
As far as I am concerned, I don’t care about idolatry one way or the other. I simple realize that attachments lead to suffering. Therefore I choose my attachments carefully.
* you're afraid to suffer... it's part of life...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never said that, but your statement made it sound like you do not believe in the scientific method.
* you're incorrect assumptions will get you nowhere... i never said Big Bang represents the totality of science...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
* based on science...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hitler was a Buddha who was on a path of evil. We are all Buddhas and the path we take is the path we choose.
* still, stars do die out...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because I tell you to not be so sensitive, means I’m judgmental? That does not make any sense. You have not given me a compelling reason, or any at all, to stop being critical of Christianity.
* nevermind... 😛
Originally posted by peejayd
* you are creating a fallacy... you keep on bringing up things with blatantly wrong parallelisms and analogies... the statement "who we are reflects on what we do" is NOT equal to the statement "we are what we eat"... please compose yourself, bro...
I don’t agree. Just like "we are what we eat" is true figuratively but not literally; "who we are reflects on what we do" is true figuratively but not literally.
Originally posted by peejayd
* basically, they're different... nuff said...
Stubbornness on your part?
Originally posted by peejayd
* what a loose doctrine...
Buddhism doesn’t try to control. Buddhism gives a path to a better life that each person grows into at the rate that is right for them. The encouragement is happiness, not the fear of a hell.
Originally posted by peejayd
* nope, only makes my belief more believable...
Supernatural only makes your belief more believable?
Originally posted by peejayd
* as if Buddhism does not require any time or devotion... you're so biased...
That is not what I said.
Originally posted by peejayd
* you're afraid to suffer... it's part of life...
There is no virtue in suffering.
Originally posted by peejayd
* you're incorrect assumptions will get you nowhere... i never said Big Bang represents the totality of science...
I wasn’t talking about science; I was talking about the scientific method. Do you know the difference?
Originally posted by peejayd
* based on science...
…with empirical proof.
Originally posted by peejayd
* still, stars do die out...
And stars are born all the time.
Originally posted by peejayd
* nevermind... 😛
Originally posted by Peterlane
I am atheist but i read the bible to help with my moral life. It is a really good guide
"When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you- and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy."
Deuteronomy 7: 1-3
Originally posted by King Kandy
If he changed his mind it means his first idea was wrong. Which means he is not omniscient and infallible.
* God became omniscient and infallible because of people's interpretations... iirc, both omniscient and infallible was never found in the Bible, moreso attributed to God... and there are many verses in the Bible that states God changed His mind because of His love and mercy...