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Pure speculation. No, they are not copied. Not even the most libral sholars hold on to the so-called"Mystery religon."

Originally posted by Son of Man
Pure speculation. No, they are not copied. Not even the most libral sholars hold on to the so-called"Mystery religon."

Sorry, S.O.M.... you keep twisting your position. Let me recall this:

Originally posted by Son of Man
You are totally twisting the Bible and my words. When Jesus became like us he bore flesh, he lived with us. First I'll give you the definition of the Trinity, and then we'll work from there. The Bible teaches that within the nature of the one true God exists three separate and distinct persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are co-equal in nature and co-eternal. The Trinity is NOT three gods in one. The Jehovah's Witnesses would say that the Trinity is defined as three gods in one. Christians definitely do not believe that the Trinity doctrine is three gods in one. All through the Old Testament and many times in the New, we clearly see there is but one true God.Gal. 4:8 is a very important, key Scripture in understanding the doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible says:
"Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods."
By implication, we now know that there is one true God by nature. That true God which exists is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All three persons are eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful and everywhere present. Some people have their car as their god. Of course, that's a false god because that car is not eternal. That car is not all-powerful(a nature of God), all-knowing(a nature of God); and it's not everywhere present(a nature of God). Only the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit that we read of in the Holy Bible possess these four unique attributes. Therefore, they alone are by nature God.A good analogy for the Trinity is that space contains three dimensions, yet the dimensions are not ‘parts’ — the concept of ‘space’ is meaningless without all three dimensions.
Now let me make some truths:

1.There is only one God (Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 44:8). Note that the Hebrew word for ‘one’ is echad which means composite unity — it is used in Genesis 2:24 where the husband and wife become ‘one flesh’. The word for absolute unity is yachid which is never used of God in the Scripture.

2.The Father is called God (John 6:27, Ephesians 4:6). And The Son is called God (Hebrews 1:8. He is also called ‘I am’ in John 8:58 cf. Ex. 3:14 ). He has always existed (John 1:1–3, 8:56–58), but took on full human nature in addition to His divine nature at the Incarnation (John 1:14, Philippians 2:5–11). (countioued)

That's why... I started on Number 1. I hope you remember that. I respect your suggestion that "we'll work from there". S.O.M., it's you who suggested that. Now what? So, to make this discussion plain and simple, I followed the numberings you make. Why can't you just stick on what you have written?

I will test you to see if you have the Jesus of The Bible.

1.The Jesus of the Bible is prayed to (Acts 7:55-60; Psalm 116:4 and Zech. 13:9 with 1 Cor. 1:1-2).
2.The Jesus of the Bible is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38; Heb. 1:6)
3.The Jesus of the Bible called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8).

Now, answear my objection if you can, than you make objections and we can take it from there. Later.

These question fell to statement [which you considered 'truths'] Number 4 of your post. So we take Number 1 first. Then Number 2. Then Number 3... as the real and sane nature of numbers.

Thank you.
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Jury, you're in a cult anyway, arent you? 😇

I belong to the "cult" [whatever you call it] our Lord Jesus Christ has built. 🙂

Originally posted by Son of Man
^ Debbiejoe I belive you are talking about a gnostic, or Deuterocanonical, or Pseudepigraphal book when you refer to James The bro. of Jesus. Or that one book written by I forgot the authours name.

I can't remember right now if he was called "James the Just" or not.....I'm kinda tired...I'd have to look it up....That could be another James....zzzzzzzz...I know it's not Rick James....... 😱

😂 I think it's the cult Paul built....haha

😛 Whatever, debbie.

Oops sorry.

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James lead the jeruslaem church, catohlics belive Peter lead there chruch. James does have one work in The Bible. Please let us stay on topic though.

Debbie I use the word "sholar" to show that no authorties hold that postion.

Jury, you are makeing this all to diffuclt. Let us start were we are at no. (Not were we were weeks ago.)

P.S. Oh, the supposed parallels with pagan myths has gained little traction in the academic community. The Jesus Mysteries has been criticized for heavy reliance on out-dated secondary sources and for confusing the issue of causation (just who was borrowing from whom).

Originally posted by yoda545
i have 3 questions to anyone who belives in christanity....
1 - does christanity teach that god is powerful?
2 - is jesus god?
3 - if jesus is god and god is powerful than why couldn't he save himself from being cruxifed????

Now, tell me, are you really that ignorant about Christianity or are you just trolling?

See: http://www.thiaoouba.com/tomb.htm

Originally posted by yoda545
i have 3 questions to anyone who belives in christanity....
1 - does christanity teach that god is powerful?
2 - is jesus god?
3 - if jesus is god and god is powerful than why couldn't he save himself from being cruxifed????

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. He could, but didn't.

Now, tell me, are you really that ignorant about Christianity or are you just trolling?

Originally posted by Wonderer
See: http://www.thiaoouba.com/tomb.htm

Tomb of Jesus in Shingo Village (Herai) in Japan.
The Song reveals the Truth

In 1935, Kiyomaro Takeuchi discovered 1900 year old document stored in Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan, containing evidence, that Jesus (Joshua) born in Bethlehem to virgin Mary is buried in Herai Village in Aomori district of Japan. The document contained also Jesus will, requesting that his brother's tomb to be located next to his. The document was SO authentic and news so explosive at the time, that the Japanese government banned the document from public view and kept it locked in a museum in Tokyo. During World War II Tokyo was severely bombed and the museum with all documents was allegedly destroyed. Luckily, Takeuchi family made copies of the document before surrendering it to officials. Copies preserved by the Takeuchi family survived to this day.

Very interesting......Did you read the book?

Originally posted by Son of Man
Debbie I use the word "sholar" to show that no authorties hold that postion.

Jury, you are makeing this all to diffuclt. Let us start were we are at no. (Not were we were weeks ago.)

You started it with 4 Numbers of 'truths' according to you. I responded, yet you keep avoiding my posts. Well, I understand.

The fact remains that you are WRONG when you cited ECHAD as a proof to God's alleged "compound nature". Because if it is, how would you reconcile it with Abraham also described as ECHAD? You call it 'truth'? So, sad.

I'll proceed to Number 2 of what you claimed to be the 'truths' next time. And it's up to you if you wish to ignore it.

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Crap, I keep doing this..sorry........Click on the wrong button and see what happens.........😕

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Jesus was not God, he was an ordinary guy, born to Mary and Joseph. I think it's sick that God got Mary pregnant, Joseph was her husband, he should have fathered that child.

Originally posted by Makedde
Jesus was not God, he was an ordinary guy, born to Mary and Joseph. I think it's sick that God got Mary pregnant, Joseph was her husband, he should have fathered that child.

God is a fornicator..god... bad bad...