Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
All supposition on your part, as usual your assumptions are amusing 🙂
Its supposition on your part that theres a higher being than yahweh when theres been no reference to one whatsoever 😱
Would you like to point out and name these other christian like supreme beings from DC so i can get back to you or are they like the backing for most of your counters immaterial? 🙂
I look forward to your inevitable reply 😱 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its supposition on your part that theres a higher being than yahweh when theres been no reference to one whatsoever 😱Would you like to point out and name these other christian like supreme beings from DC so i can get back to you or are they like the backing for most of your counters immaterial? 🙂
I look forward to your inevitable reply 😱 😂
usually its "God" although its obvious that they are not the same god to most people who have been reading comics for a while 🙂
Originally posted by kgkg
So GS have you proven that ( with a scan) that PF created the multiverse yet?
I posted scans saying that phoenix is the power of creation from which eternity and Galactus are formed. I also posted quotes from F4 calling Phoenix the greatest of the principalities and the well from which all life springs and draws its sustenance from. I then went on to post scans showing how Jean worked for the Crown as a caretaker of the multiverse. I think thats enough. 😉
There was a nice bit on wikipedia as well about how the cosmic powers weigh up. I particularly loved the entry on LT and Phoenix:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I posted scans saying that phoenix is the power of creation from which eternity and Galactus are formed. I also posted quotes from F4 calling Phoenix the greatest of the principalities and the well from which all life springs and draws its usstenance from. I then went on to post scans showing how Jean worked for the Crown as a caretaker of the multiverse. I think thats enough. 😉
PF = Big Bang = Creation = Universal
i mean do you have any reference to comic book where it says multiversal.
And ya i remember the same Reed said
Dark Pho might come close to Big G's power i can post scans for yall.
i mean ya creation etc but any facts from comic showing creation of Multiversal.
Originally posted by kgkg
Ya and i have posted Scan ofPF = Big Bang = Creation = Universal
i mean do you have any reference to comic book where it says multiversal.
And ya i remember the same Reed said
Dark Pho might come close to Big G's power i can post scans for yall.
i mean ya creation etc but any facts from comic showing creation of Multiversal.
If Eternities stem from the phoenix power then what more do you need mate? For Jean to be a caretaker of the multiverse for her phoenix work to include fixing broken universes from the Crown why do you need it to say the word multiverse when thats made quite apparrent on panel.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Eternities stem from the phoenix power then what more do you need mate? For Jean to be a caretaker of the multiverse for her phoenix work to include fixing broken universes from the Crown why do you need it to say the word multiverse when thats made quite apparrent on panel.
I mean Creation that you are taking about was referring to the big Bang.
as reed indicated
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Eternities stem from the phoenix power then what more do you need mate? For Jean to be a caretaker of the multiverse for her phoenix work to include fixing broken universes from the Crown why do you need it to say the word multiverse when thats made quite apparrent on panel.
A bit off topics but whats the name of the explosion that killed St Michael
Originally posted by kgkg
Stem power from Phoenix Force? can you simply that for me?I mean Creation that you are taking about was referring to the big Bang.
as reed indicated
"Galactus was formed from the energies of creation itself. Call it the big bang or phoenix force or what have you"
The phoenix force is the power of creation it sparks off creation by creating the big bang.
"Behold! The first level! The stars! Plasmatic geodes of concentrated cosmic life force. The source from which all other life springs. The first-- and in many ways greatest of the principalities. They are the most precious of things. Despite all their power, they are remarkably fragile. The well from which they draw their sustenance is subject to turbulance. Periodically, it ignites in the form of the Chaos-Bringer, predator of stars-- the Dark Phoenix. And yet, the Dark Phoenix merely serves evolution itself..."
Kubik in Fantastic Four Annual #23
Again the phoenix is the power of creation. It is the first level, the origin of all life and it sustains it with its energies.
Originally posted by Draco69
I feel like a freakin' parrot. GO. TO. DARKSEID. RESPECT. THREAD. COMIC. BOOK. FORUMS. 😐
Calm down. Went to your thread. 😂
At first I thought this was your scans, but c'mon your getting this from Jimmy-San? A Darkseid fanboy? 🙄
Please, I've seen this link a year ago. Some good feats, but I trust Jimmy-San as much as I trust GS. Hell, he's been banned from Superherochat.net board for his one-sided fanboyism of Darkseid.
Heck, the moderators won't even allow his name to be spoken in a post. Don't believe me? Register on that board and bring up Jimmy-San and Darkseid. They'll all tell you he's a fanboy at its worse.
No knowledgable posters there bought his take on any events.
I've read post of the guy. He writes essays like GS on the character. Heck, he even said Doomsday was Kurse level just to say Darkseid destroyed a Kurse level being and was hurt by one.
Not all. Highfather was merely channeling the Source Wall's energies. Darkseid was also weakened due to a prior battle.The comic suggested also that Darkseid would have won. But then Orion meddled his way in...
What part are you talking about?
Because he wants to be GOD. He is the antithesis to the Source. However he's not at the level to oppose GOD/Presence himself. He would need the Anti-Life Equation for that.
Um no. Where are you getting this from? He wants to control every life in the universe; hence, it's called Anti-"Life" Equation. It allows you to control every living thing in the universe. However, it's STILL below the Infinity Gauntlet.
Why? The Gauntlet allowed control of the Mind, Soul, Space, Time, Power, and Reality. The IG was omnipotent (too a degree, ex: bc LT, HOTU, etc); Darkseid isn't omnipotent.
Even with the ALE, it's still not a guarantee he'd control beings like Eternity, Infinity, the Celestials, Chaos, Order, etc. They're living, but also not. Ex: the Celestials operate from hyperspace dimension, the bodies are only shells to operate in the 3rd. How does the ALE have power over them?
So even with the ALE, he isn't going to beat an IG wielder or Lucifer much less the Presence.
GalacticStorm said it better than I could have:"The Source and the Presence are basically aspects of Yahweh. Who is Dc's god. Many people thought the Presence to be the top being in DC when that was in fact an aspect itself, just like the Word and the Source. Presence(Father) Word(Son) Source(Holy Spirit)
As for Lucifer ignoring the Source that incident wasnt anything like how its been made out by a lot of people here. Lucifer merely flew beyond Yahwehs universe where the Source resided because from there you could see "everything in the universe at once" because he had no business with the Source and was only after a vantage point he ignored it and focused on the battle that was taking place on Earth."
Um, no. The Source and the Presence are two different things. Michael speaks and acts on the Presence behalf. So does Spectre.
Dear. Don't blame me. I didn't write the Infinite Crisis...which you clearly didn't bother to read. 😬Once again. Astonishing Marvel knowledge. Very poor DC knowledge. [/B]
Write what? He weakened Anti-Monitor, Superman killed Anti-Monitor. He even used a machine and Alex to channel the OE. He didn't out right kill Anti-Monitor himself.
Nobodies denying PC Darkseid is powerful. I've always said he was powerful in post regarding him. But he ain't omnipotent. Nor is more on Galactus' level.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well as Dc follows kaballah principles (i.e the involvement of the brothers in the making of creation, the function and names of the aspects) id have to disagree with that. Keter/Crown/Presence (all the same thing) are the closest creation comes to the Unknowable, Unmanifest God. However the aspects are all just emanation points for gods essence on the tree of life and as such are equal. They only differ in role and function. Dont mistake role and function for power.Yahweh is the unknowable, unmanifest god. He/it is supreme. The Presence and the other aspects are all parts of him which touch creation and they are all equal:
Yahweh
Presence/Source/Word
Lucifer/Michael
What isn't Kaballah principle according to you G.S.?
I'll say it again, we're talking about the DC Universe - not the Kaballahverse?
And no, it's the Marvel Universe G.S. - not the Kaballahverse.
And no, LT isn't Metatron.