Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Superman was dying due to Anti-Life when he fought the Last Sun, no?
It doesn't even make sense to think of them as equals or even near-equals because Last Sun was a version of Superman that had sun-dipped a million times.
Originally posted by Astner
It's funny that you keep repeating this when Last Sun (who overpowered Superman), was killed by the miniature black hole powering Lex Luthor's power-armor.So how does your powerscale-chain go?
Rookie Green Lantern > Black Hole > Last Sun Superman > Superman = Black Adam
No he didn't. Pariah only ever channeled a fraction the Great Darkness power, and we have no clue as to how much was actually channeled. You're being disingenuous by omitting this detail, and you can't say you weren't aware of it because it's from the same issue.
....so he purged the Great Darkness from all the heroes/villains on the battlefield or he didn't? If he didn't, I'm pretty sure the comic showed he did....
Originally posted by Astner
No. In Death Metal #3 Batman's Black Lantern ring stopped Clark's cells from dying and thereby restored his power, allowing Clark to free himself from the Anti-life machine. Superman was at full power when he fought Last Sun.It doesn't even make sense to think of them as equals or even near-equals because Last Sun was a version of Superman that had sun-dipped a million times.
https://ibb.co/qBZmNfz
https://ibb.co/p0pxLbh
Actually, the scene you referred to also mentioned the Anti-Life was still affecting him and played a part for his dying
https://ibb.co/5KcPJcj
Originally posted by Astner
No. In Death Metal #3 Batman's Black Lantern ring stopped Clark's cells from dying and thereby restored his power, allowing Clark to free himself from the Anti-life machine. Superman was at full power when he fought Last Sun.It doesn't even make sense to think of them as equals or even near-equals because Last Sun was a version of Superman that had sun-dipped a million times.
I was joking about you being illiterate, glad to be proven wrong.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
....so he purged the Great Darkness from all the heroes/villains on the battlefield or he didn't? If he didn't, I'm pretty sure the comic showed he did....
/A typical marvel fanboy like Assnerd
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It was still affecting him and made him spenthttps://ibb.co/qBZmNfz
https://ibb.co/p0pxLbhActually, the scene you referred to also mentioned the Anti-Life was still affecting him and played a part for his dying
https://ibb.co/5KcPJcj
The point is: blacks holes are not only extremely inconsistent, but also unquantifiable. So they should never be used as a point of reference for power.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Whatever he did, it wasn't impressive and Surfer could do it in his sleep./A typical marvel fanboy like Assnerd
Originally posted by Astner
Marvel fanboys call me a DC fanboy, and DC fanboys call me a Marvel fanboy. I wouldn't have it any other way. 😎
Originally posted by Astner
Fair enough. But it doesn't really matter, because Last Sun was a version of Clark that had been exposed to so much solar energy that he got corrupted by the power. He also bodied the other Kryptonians. And despite all this, he died to a black hole.The point is: blacks holes are not only extremely inconsistent, but also unquantifiable. So they should never be used as a point of reference for power.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway I searched for both DC fanboy (where you're calling everyone a DC fanboy and not vice-versa as you claimed).http://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?action=showresults&q=dc+fanboy+userid%3A96799
But eh, flowery description.
As for black holes.....
Originally posted by Astner
As for your Green Lantern feats, Superman doesn't have the abilities of Green Lanterns, and his track record with black holes are terrible. Heralds on the other hand has a fair amount of good ones, didn't Terrax literally use one to hide in? No shields, nothing. He just lived in there.
Seems they are pretty good to reference. But then, "He started it", amirite??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As for black holes.....Seems they are pretty good to reference. But then, "He started it", amirite??
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter because it's space magic that doesn't scale to durability in any meaningful way.
Originally posted by Astner
Fair enough. But it doesn't really matter, because Last Sun was a version of Clark that had been exposed to so much solar energy that he got corrupted by the power. He also bodied the other Kryptonians. And despite all this, he died to a black hole.The point is: blacks holes are not only extremely inconsistent, but also unquantifiable. So they should never be used as a point of reference for power.
Originally posted by Astner
A lightning bolt isn't doing shit to someone who can create stars with a wave of his hand.- Silver Surfer: Black #1
Even if you want to equate Black Adam's speed and strength to Silver Surfer (which is fair) it doesn't account for the sheer versatility-advantage Surfer has: He can make and unmake matter, he can warp spacetime, choose not to interact with matter and energy it (become intangible and undetectable).
Originally posted by Astner
Considering he could just generate a black hole like he did against the Genocide Wave, and I don't think anyone would be powerful or quick enough to stop him.- Annihilation: Silver Surfer #1
Originally posted by Astner
Right. I thought he'd be more inclined to shut up about black holes when I pointed out the fact that surviving inside of them are everyday occurrences for Galactus' Heralds (including the Silver Surfer). But because Green Lanterns do not have any other feats on par with the Silver Surfer he continued to bring it up.
Except Surfer has almost died several times he went into a black hole. You conveniently ignored that as usual.
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter because it's space magic that doesn't scale to durability in any meaningful way.
😂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So "He started it first!!!". Got ya.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So where are these accusations of you being a DC fanboy?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Surfer has almost died several times he went into a black hole. You conveniently ignored that as usual.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not defending anything.....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm asking for proof of your claim - that you're accused of being a DC fanboy by Marvel fans.
But you're missing the point. Being called a fanboy of the opposite side by both DC- and Marvel-fanboys is the sign of impartiality.
Originally posted by Astner
Then you're derailing the thread.No. I said I had been accused of it. It's not recent.
But you're missing the point. Being called a fanboy of the opposite side by both DC- and Marvel-fanboys is the sign of impartiality.
If you think I am, report me.
And YOU'RE missing the point. I'm saying it never happened, so you're not impartial. But of course, you can prove me wrong.
I'm asking you to back a claim YOU made in this thread. Unless you're derailing the thread, of course.
You're the one who made that claim, so prove it. Nor did I say it was recent, but good attempt at goalpost moving there.
Originally posted by AstnerWhen? And how does this change the fact that a Sun-dipped Superman died to a black hole?
Got almost crushed to death until Galactus saves him. From SS v3 9.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/m1vLLsy
Koed by the same black hole in SS v3 15.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/msFySwx
Had to use Lord Chaos and Master Order's help to get through the same black hole in SS v3 18.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/SqSj1yP
KOed by collision with a black hole.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/BS7w2Sy
Knocked out trying to enter a black hole from SS v4 5/6.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1S0WSH3
Unable to deal with a tiny black hole as per his own admission. Star Masters 2.
https://postimg.cc/jWdFGH7V
Got almost killed by a black hole. Silver Surfer Black Director's cut 1.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/WjYHzcd
Alternate universe Superman.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Since this applies to this thread, figured I'd repost it here.The Runner [who took Surfer's lunch money]:
Is slower than Makkari moving at the speed of light:
This is also relevant for Black Adam since we see he has [at least] comparable speed to Runner, who was left in the dust when Makkari achieved lightspeed, while Black Adam was in a similar situation right behind Jay Garrick:
Black Adam would treat Surfer like runner did, only instead of stealing his board for humiliation, he'd probably just destroy it, crushing his mobility and then beating him like a pinata. But then again, he could also opt to troll him, and beat him unconscious with it, the same way
LoboLunatik has done:gg ez
