Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Ehhhh zero G vs. gravity modification. I guess he's not really walking in mid-air. But, he was advancing on Jean Grey while she had him suspended in mid-air. He did this twice.
I concede he advances, but it doesn't look like he advances to cover a very far distance. Suppose juggs is floating in space near the moon, how long will it take him to advance towards mars?
Originally posted by Tenebrous
I concede he advances, but it doesn't look like he advances to cover a very far distance. Suppose juggs is floating in space near the moon, how long will it take him to advance towards mars?
How ever fast the lumbering oaf walks I imagine. 😄
He only did it in that one issue, well, twice in that one issue. So, who knows?
Again, I don't see how FL can BFR Juggs.
And don't say that he can blow up the planet because they're three things wrong with that. First, he can do no such thing (prove it). Second, it requires him to leave the battle field which isn't allowed by the forum rules. And finally, FL would have removed himself from the battlefield as well (Thus he BFRd himself).
Also, there are some here who don't know Juggs very well. They say things like "FL will eventually wear Juggs down" when they don't know
that not only Juggsdoes not tire but he cannot harmed by physical force period. It is only by psionic or mystical means that which Juggs can be harmed. Thor's godblast, which is greater than anything FL can dish out, had absolutely no damage effect to Juggs.
Personally, this is a stalemate if FL stays away forever. But if he decides to come in and fight then he better not let Juggs catch him. Otherwise he gets his neck rung and body folded up nicely.
Firelord can't pick up Jugg at lightspeed or he'll destroy Earth in the process, and he's a good guy.Physically, he cannot even slow him down, cause powered up by the PC he can reach Class 50 or a bit more than that.Not enough to even make Cain flinch.If they are on the ground, Firelord could melt the enviroment and make Jugg being sunk into the molten Earth thus making him unable to build momentum and thus unable to fight.This is the case were Magic VS Power Cosmic wins, the recently powered up Surfer who fought alongside Galactus in Annihilation, Morg with WOL, may succeed in a physical attempt to slow or stun Jugg using enough of their energies, considering Thor had to use Mjolnir to negate magic and manage to stun Cain.
Originally posted by Mindset
Well FL could pick up Juggs at lightspeed and dump him into space.
Not only can't Fl reach lightspeed within the battlefield distance in an atmosphere but he doesn't have the necessary reactions to grab Juggs moving at that speed from so close. The moment he grabs Juggs is the moment he gets his neck rung.
Originally posted by h1a8
Not only can't Fl reach lightspeed within the battlefield distance in an atmosphere but he doesn't have the necessary reactions to grab Juggs moving at that speed from so close. The moment he grabs Juggs is the moment he gets his neck rung.
FL flies through space going lightspeed, if he didn't have the reaction speed to be able to adjust his movement he would run into asteroids, etc.
And he doesn't even have to go lightspeed, he could go supersonic speeds that exceed Cain's ability to react, but would not harm the planet. It's not like FL even cares that much about Earth.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Firelord can't pick up Jugg at lightspeed or he'll destroy Earth in the process, and he's a good guy.Physically, he cannot even slow him down, cause powered up by the PC he can reach Class 50 or a bit more than that.Not enough to even make Cain flinch.If they are on the ground, Firelord could melt the enviroment and make Jugg being sunk into the molten Earth thus making him unable to build momentum and thus unable to fight.This is the case were Magic VS Power Cosmic wins, the recently powered up Surfer who fought alongside Galactus in Annihilation, Morg with WOL, may succeed in a physical attempt to slow or stun Jugg using enough of their energies, considering Thor had to use Mjolnir to negate magic and manage to stun Cain.
FL was willing to kill the people in NY who sprayed him with water...
Originally posted by h1a8
Again, I don't see how FL can BFR Juggs.
And don't say that he can blow up the planet because they're three things wrong with that. First, he can do no such thing (prove it). Second, it requires him to leave the battle field which isn't allowed by the forum rules. And finally, FL would have removed himself from the battlefield as well (Thus he BFRd himself).Also, there are some here who don't know Juggs very well. They say things like "FL will eventually wear Juggs down" when they don't know
that not only Juggsdoes not tire but he cannot harmed by physical force period. It is only by psionic or mystical means that which Juggs can be harmed. Thor's godblast, which is greater than anything FL can dish out, had absolutely no damage effect to Juggs.Personally, this is a stalemate if FL stays away forever. But if he decides to come in and fight then he better not let Juggs catch him. Otherwise he gets his neck rung and body folded up nicely.
Terrax has destroyed a planet whilst standing on it to no ill effects, Firelord is at least equal to Terrax.
There's no proof Jugs could even survive a planet shattering explosion.
Originally posted by Mindset
FL flies through space going lightspeed, if he didn't have the reaction speed to be able to adjust his movement he would run into asteroids, etc.And he doesn't even have to go lightspeed, he could go supersonic speeds that exceed Cain's ability to react, but would not harm the planet. It's not like FL even cares that much about Earth.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Terrax has destroyed a planet whilst standing on it to no ill effects, Firelord is at least equal to Terrax.There's no proof Jugs could even survive a planet shattering explosion.
Terrax can't destroy a planet. If he did then it was most certainly due to
some other power or plot device. Second, there is no proof that Jugs can
even be hurt by physical force. How do you like them apples?
Originally posted by h1a8juggernauts been harmed both onslaught and warhulk have whipped him physically saying hes immune to harm is just pure unbridled fanboyism. juggzie wins. but saying hes immune to harm is bullshit.
Terrax can't destroy a planet. If he did then it was most certainly due to
some other power or plot device. Second, there is no proof that Jugs can
even be hurt by physical force. How do you like them apples?
Originally posted by Lumby
juggernauts been harmed both onslaught and warhulk have whipped him [B]physically saying hes immune to harm is just pure unbridled fanboyism. juggzie wins. but saying hes immune to harm is bullshit. [/B]
Onslaught is a psionic being. Juggs can be harm through mystical and psionic forces (on panel as well as in his bios). Also, the Onslaught debacle is invalid since the writer didn't know much about Juggernaut (had Onslaught pull an non-existent gem from his chest). Juggs is immune to purely physical harm and not harm in general.
Originally posted by h1a8
First, this isn't space this is an atmosphere.
Second, I can dodge asteroids going lightspeed if the asteroids are AUs away (or even planetary distances away).
We're talking about battlefield distance (.5 km). Neither can FL accelerate to lightspeed in such a small distance nor can he react in that distance traveling lightspeed (if he could accelerate to it). And no one (except flash) has every traveled lightspeed in an atmosphere.
First, I already said he doesn't need to go lightspeed, it's in the post you quoted...
Second, what sense does it make to be able to move at lightspeed if you can't react to obstacles in front of you, every asteroid etc. isn't an AU away...
So again, what's stopping FL from going supersonic speeds pick Juggs up from behind and fly into space. He could go fast enough to be beyond Juggs reaction speed, but slow enough to not damage the Earth significantly.
