Classic Juggernaut vs. Firelord

Started by Knowsbleed336 pages
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
When Nightcrawler threw a chandelier at him.

That seems contradictory considering Spider-Man once drove a gas tanker into the Juggernaut and was completely un-phased.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I agree.

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Also, I believe the question was raised earlier, and Firelord has destroyed a planet before... easily.

No he didn't. Destroy a planet means make it explode by default.

Originally posted by Lumby
No hes not that bios obviously incredibly old outdated and like i said inaccurate. my bio (the newest one) says differently

"The mystical energy of cytorrak also gave the juggernaut an extraordinary degree of RESISTANCE to all forms of injury." -OHOTHMU-X-men 2005"

your source has errors too. So I guess it's inaccurate too.
But know this, extraordinary could mean that Juggs is immune to anything universal. So no one under LT or a multiversal can harm him.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he didn't. Destroy a planet means make it explode by default.
He basically vaporised the whole thing that I recall...

Originally posted by h1a8
your source has errors too. So I guess it's inaccurate too.
But know this, extraordinary could mean that Juggs is immune to anything universal. So no one under LT or a multiversal can harm him.

I think it's pretty apparent cosmic level characters can hurt him if War Hulk could, and definitely anyone at or above Cytorrak's powers could.

Originally posted by h1a8
your source has errors too. So I guess it's inaccurate too.
But know this, extraordinary could mean that Juggs is immune to anything universal. So no one under LT or a multiversal can harm him.
so pretty much galactus, eternity, death other abstracts etc. odin, dormammu, mephisto etc. all fodder to the mighty juggernaut?

I think it's pretty apparent cosmic level characters can hurt him if War Hulk could, and definitely anyone at or above Cytorrak's powers could.

Lumby agrees

Originally posted by Mindset
I think it's pretty apparent cosmic level characters can hurt him if War Hulk could, and definitely anyone at or above Cytorrak's powers could.

As I said previously Juggernaut walked right through a herald level beings cosmic blasts as if they were nothing.

How does one go about judging how powerful Cytorrak is? In one comic it said that he was on a rampage and, had to be banished to the Crimson Cosmos because he was going to destroy reality, and this was because the ancient deities could not stop him. Then Juggernaut pwns his master in one of the most CIS filled comics ever written??? Could it have been another Darkseid thing that it wasn't the real Cytorrak, but just an Avatar or Herald of the deity?

At any rate if Juggernaut got his hands on Firelord he would kill him. Thor's beaten Firelord, Hercules has shown that he can take the heat of a greater flame wielder than Firelord (Frankie Ray aka Nova) and Cain has better body armor than the two combined.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
As I said previously Juggernaut walked right through a herald level beings cosmic blasts as if they were nothing.

Good thing heralds aren't cosmic level characters.

I mean Galactus, etc.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
As I said previously Juggernaut walked right through a herald level beings cosmic blasts as if they were nothing.
Who?

Originally posted by Mindset
Good thing heralds aren't cosmic level characters.

I mean Galactus, etc.

I figured you meant this since you mentioned War Hulk and his Celestial tech.

Originally posted by Lumby
so pretty much galactus, eternity, death other abstracts etc. odin, dormammu, mephisto etc. all fodder to the mighty juggernaut?

Lumby agrees

Juggs can be beaten by bfr, psionic force, mystical force, or even taking away his enchantment (mystical means). The guys you listed can do at least one of these things. But no one under universal can break Juggs skin by using purely physical force. The crimson bands of cyttorak holds the universe together. That is where Juggs power comes from. So you would have to be multiversal to overpower the might of a universal bond.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He basically vaporised the whole thing that I recall...

Under his own cosmic power without any plot device?
I don't believe it. Proof please.

Originally posted by Mindset
I think it's pretty apparent cosmic level characters can hurt him if War Hulk could, and definitely anyone at or above Cytorrak's powers could.

No one has hurt Juggs physically, not even War Hulk.