Classic Juggernaut vs. Firelord

Originally posted by batdude123
How do you make someone with infinite strength stronger? awesome

I'm guessing you're joking. 😛

Originally posted by Mindset
First, I already said he doesn't need to go lightspeed, it's in the post you quoted...

Second, what sense does it make to be able to move at lightspeed if you can't react to obstacles in front of you, every asteroid etc. isn't an AU away...

So again, what's stopping FL from going supersonic speeds pick Juggs up from behind and fly into space. He could go fast enough to be beyond Juggs reaction speed, but slow enough to not damage the Earth significantly.

There is a vast difference between the distances of asteroids in space than battlefield distance. So you can't equate the two as the same.
Second, even if FL flies at supersonic speeds it would still take a long time to even reach space. Hell, it takes at least 1 second just to reach space traveling at the speed of light. But since FL flies at only supersonic speeds Juggs would have grabbed FL and rung his neck like a rag doll on the way.

Originally posted by Lumby
found! hulk beats down juggzor physixaly.

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4010/172203ch.jpg

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4814/172214lw.jpg

and here

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

hulk

I can beat the hell out of some titanium but not put a scratch on it.
Hulk didn't damage Juggs one ounce. So you didn't prove anything.

Originally posted by Lumby
i misread the scans, ill find a handbook entry on him or something, i mean seriously immune to physical harm is such bullshit fanboyism hes got very high end durability is all

Yet there is no instance where he has been hurt by pure physical force.
So I fail miserably to see how this is fanboyism.

Also rule number 1:

Someone has an exact power that's mentioned in their bios and or panel until it has been shown contrary. Juggs never had an Until yet.

Originally posted by Lumby
Again my fault, im very slightly dyslexic. but dude honestly i can dig up 20 more of those things and i bet donuts they say high-end durability or nigh-invulnerable. juggernaut is a beast and definitely has IMMENSE durability but hes nowhere near invulnerable. even suggesting so is just ugly fanboyism and yes bullshit.

here's an old source. Its from OHOTMU. Notice it says totally indestructible.

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-juggernaut.html

Originally posted by h1a8
I can beat the hell out of some titanium but not put a scratch on it.
Hulk didn't damage Juggs one ounce. So you didn't prove anything.

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Also, I believe the question was raised earlier, and Firelord has destroyed a planet before... easily.

battles involving classic juggs suck. 😐

Originally posted by h1a8
here's an old source. Its from OHOTMU. Notice it says totally indestructible.

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-juggernaut.html

a newer handbook more up to date handbook
"the mystical energy of cytorrak also gave the juggernaut an extraordinary degree of resistance to all forms of injury."

juggernaut is totally indestructible except to magic, until proven other we are going to go by his bio and say that he is completely indestructible.

No hes not that bios obviously incredibly old outdated and like i said inaccurate. my bio (the newest one) says differently

"The mystical energy of cytorrak also gave the juggernaut an extraordinary degree of RESISTANCE to all forms of injury." -OHOTHMU-X-men 2005"

Originally posted by carver9
juggernaut is totally indestructible except to magic, until proven other we are going to go by his bio and say that he is completely indestructible.

Going by that logic non mystical MCE's and Abstracts couldn't kill him, which is BS.

Any type of close ranged physical combat = Juggernaut Win
Anything else Stalemate or BFR for Firelord.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Going by that logic non mystical MCE's and Abstracts couldn't kill him, which is BS.

Originally posted by janus77

it's just the energies of the two universes that flow through Hulk, nothing more. you need evidence to back up your assertion that it was otherwise, because the comic and Apoc certainly don't suggest that.

Uh, read what Apoc says in this scan (was posted a page earlier)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

Now that you've put that incredible reading might of your's in to good use, what do you learn? 1. He's talking about the might of the Celestials being put to test against Jugnut 2. He's not talking about Hulk's might being put to a test against Jugnut. 3. What can we learn from this?

Originally posted by Lumby
yea exactly hes got high end durability, a force field and a healing factor saying hes got complete immunity to physical harm is just ludicrous bullshit

Please tell me, who do you think could harm Classic Juggernaut by punching him?

(I do agree with you, I think. Anyone who's above Cyttorak in power should be able to defeat Juggernaut. So I don't believe fed Galactus would lose against him in a fight)

Juggy has been hurt by fire before... Firelord is the lord of fire... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Please tell me, who do you think could harm Classic Juggernaut by punching him?

(I do agree with you, I think. Anyone who's above Cyttorak in power should be able to defeat Juggernaut. So I don't believe fed Galactus would lose against him in a fight)

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Juggy has been hurt by fire before... Firelord is the lord of fire... 😖hifty:

Uhhh when?

When Nightcrawler threw a chandelier at him.

This is for Janus77. According to Marvel themselves Hulks strength was amped. Read the 3rd and 4th questions.

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulk461cu0.jpg