Top 10 Jedi Duelists of the PT Era

Started by skywalker83314 pages

Whatever. If i could I would put them as equals, but you can't.

Originally posted by skywalker833
Anakin may be the superior fighter, but obi 1 is wiser, therefore will exploit a weakness in anakin and win.

Obi-Wan held his own against Anakin. I would say they are close, but Anakin more of an edge in skill, but Obi-Wan has the wisdom so that is a major advantage.

THANKYOU for understanding my point of view!

I said that Obi-Wan can defeat Anakin in combat; still, Anakin is a more skillful fighter and duelist, and he therefore deserves a higher place on the list than Obi-Wan.

OK, just getting everything straight.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
I said that Obi-Wan can defeat Anakin in combat; still, Anakin is a more skillful fighter and duelist, and he therefore deserves a higher place on the list than Obi-Wan.
Not every time, and certainly not 6 out of 10 times.

There were extenuating circumstances surrounding that fight. If you don't believe so, then you're an idiot.

what are you talking about? I think you meant to quote me. And yes there were circumstances, going against both opponents. Obi 1 deserved to win that fight. And he did.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Not every time, and certainly not 6 out of 10 times.

There were extenuating circumstances surrounding that fight. If you don't believe so, then you're an idiot.

No need to use 'idiot'. I know there were many, many circumstances in that fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Obi-Wan- with his complete knowledge of Anakin's bladework (which gave him an immense advantage), and his understanding of Anakin's psyche, he can logically keep with Anakin in the necessary time for him to use a tactical advantage, or piss Anakin off enough for him to cause him to make another mistake and take advantage of it. No, I suppose not every time, but Obi-Wan does have several undeniable advantages over Anakin.

Originally posted by skywalker833
THANKYOU for understanding my point of view!

No problem. Verses things are stupid thought guys.

I mean, Obi-Wan has the wisdom and skills, Anakin may have more skills but lacks wisdom.

Thus Obi-Wan has an advantage over Anakin. If they maybe fought on perfectly flat land with perfect lighting then Anakin would seem to have an edge, but no location is really perfect, I am sure Obi-Wan would use other factors to his advantage. I mean...Obi-Wan did find a way to take out Grevious.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
No need to use 'idiot'. I know there were many, many circumstances in that fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Obi-Wan- with his complete knowledge of Anakin's bladework (which gave him an immense advantage), and his understanding of Anakin's psyche, he can logically keep with Anakin in the necessary time for him to use a tactical advantage, or piss Anakin off enough for him to cause him to make another mistake and take advantage of it. No, I suppose not every time, but Obi-Wan does have several undeniable advantages over Anakin.
The idiot part wasn't referring to you. Sorry.

And for the last part, yea OB1 does have certain adavantages, but Anakin does to. He's physically stronger, has a much stronger connection with the force, is a more skilled with a saber, and knows OB1 just as well as OB1 knows him. The onlyreason he lost was because he wasn't thinking. You put him in that situation 9 more times under different circumstances, and you'l have a completely different outcome. He wouldn't think he's invinceible and make that jump. If he hadn't jumped, he wouldn't have lost. And ultimately he won anyways cause he eventually killed OB1. And before you say that OB1 let himself be killed, it was only because he knew he couldn't win and did it so Luke and co could escape, a la ep 4 script.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
The idiot part wasn't referring to you. Sorry.

And for the last part, yea OB1 does have certain adavantages, but Anakin does to. He's physically stronger, has a much stronger connection with the force, is a more skilled with a saber, and knows OB1 just as well as OB1 knows him. The onlyreason he lost was because he wasn't thinking. You put him in that situation 9 more times under different circumstances, and you'l have a completely different outcome. He wouldn't think he's invinceible and make that jump. If he hadn't jumped, he wouldn't have lost. And ultimately he won anyways cause he eventually killed OB1. And before you say that OB1 let himself be killed, it was only because he knew he couldn't win and did it so Luke and co could escape, a la ep 4 script.

Obi-Wan also has a lot of experience. We can't say how many times they each would have beaten each other out of ten fights because we have only seen them fight twice, and both of the outcomes were sort of based on a technicality.

That's kind of the point of debating. We take what we know about each and make a decision on who would win, or who would win the majority of the time. And why would you try to single my post out when that's what everyone on here is doing? Whatever, its good. To each their own.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
That's kind of the point of debating. We take what we know about each and make a decision on who would win, or who would win the majority of the time. And why would you try to single my post out when that's what everyone on here is doing? Whatever, its good. To each their own.

Because I wanted to reply to your post? I hope that is okay.

Debates like these never end. It is like Mac VS PC, to each his own.

The only reason they never end is because people, even when the know they're wrong, will fail to concede the argument.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
The only reason they never end is because people, even when the know they're wrong, will fail to concede the argument.

Are you ever wrong?

I believe a lot of debates go on forever is becuase people have preferences.

Yes, and if I'm wrong, I' admit it. I'm somewhat alone on this site when it comes to that.

Well, most of these debates aren't preferential, and that doesn't stop people from continuing to carry on.

Ok, we are a little off topic here.
Anakin may have more skill than kenobi, but Kenobi has his smarts which enable him to beat anakin, and that counts in duels, therefore, he should be higher on the list.

No again. He's not smarter per se, he used the situation (that ONE time) to his advantage. Advent just explained that to you in the other thread. Anakin was far from being "himself" in that fight and wasn't thinking clearly.

1) Yoda
2) Mace
3) Obi Wan Kenobi
4)Anakin
5)Kit Fisto
6)Qui Gon Jinn
7)Ki Adi Mundi
8)Cin Drallig (WTF HE WAS OWNED BY VADER USEING ONE HAND WHILE GRIPPING BENE WITH THE OTHER o.o)

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
1) Yoda
2) Mace
3) Obi Wan Kenobi
4)Anakin
5)Kit Fisto
6)Qui Gon Jinn
7)Ki Adi Mundi
8)Cin Drallig (WTF HE WAS OWNED BY VADER USEING ONE HAND WHILE GRIPPING BENE WITH THE OTHER o.o)
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