yea that was a long time ago..he sucked then and he sucks now...anyway, arachnoid: i made a response that explained the flaw in your logic with a a good exampls and a aragraph explaining it...you said my logic was flawed? and didnt explain why at all...jus said, no your logic is flawed...im not really convinced...Magneto is not as powerful as a Nuke...a Nuke releases most of its energy in the forms of heat, light, concussive force, not emp...that is a smaller dynamic of the explosion...thus by that same logic one could say that since magneto's emp only releases a .05 megaton blast, and a nuke produces a 100,000 megaton blast (im not sure of the actual megaton capability of a modern nuke) the a nuke is 2 million times more powerful than magneto...i know this isnt true, its a bad comparison, just like yours..i would say magneto and a uke are close to the same amount of power..after magneto realeases that amount of energy he would be depleted...but after Hulk does he is just madder and stronger...not to mention he is just to strong, fast, and feocious for magneto...and about hulk and onslought...it wasnt mindless hulk, it was savage hulk, the most common version of Hulk in comics and the one we are refering to...mindless Hulk has only had about 2 appearances and cannot articlate any speech...against onslaught Hulk said "Hulk Smash" and "Hulk is the strongest!" proof that it wasnt mindless Hulk...Hulk after onslaught that almost melted NYC?..could have been mindless hulk, cant remember if he could talk or not
I'm not talking about the overall power of the nuclear weapon, that's what you can't grasp, and that's why your logic is flawed. I'm strickly speaking about the EMP that the nuke releases. I never compared Magneto to the explosion. Name a device that releases a EMP blast with a radius of 300 miles or greater, and I'll compare Magneto to it.
Superman doesn't suck, why is everyone so down on ol' Superman!
Hulk can survive a nuclear blast anyway, so whether Magneto isn't as strong as one or not makes no difference. Unless Magneto's powers have been multiplied immensely since the Legion ordeal, he doesn't have the capability to take down Hulk or even keep him at bay for long.
All magneto
All you Hulk advocates have got to crazy, even those of you who say magneto but w/ a very difficult time. The correct answer to this questions is: magento and with absolutely no trouble whatsoever. Everyone keeps talking about how STRONG the hulk is, but don't you remember Asteroid M? This this was the size of a small city, and would have weighted millions of tons, yet Magnus lifted it into space. (Granted this exhauseted him, but this was a feat that the hulk could never even have dreamed of. Also, all Magnus has to do is wrap something around the Hulk and lift him off the ground and away from objects he could throw and the hulk is powerless. Magneto could wrap a traffic light around him and force him under water until he drowned and the hulk would be powerless to stop him. The hulk only has one thing on his side, brut strength, and the sheer fact of the matter is that even in that catagory, he is soooo far out matched by Eric that he could never provide a decent challenge for him.
Also, think about this: Magneto ripped Apocolypse into pieces and we can't ever begin to argue that the hulk is as strong, or nearly as strong as Apocolypse. And I know you're all going to say: "but the hulk isn't made out of metal like Apoc. BLAH BLAH BLAH." But Erik could wrap metal around all his appendages and rip the hulk into pieces, and I believe that would be beyond the scope of even the hulk's healing abilities.
the jist of my argument from the start is that magneto wins providiing that hulk doesnt get his hands on him.. asteroid M was the size of a city, certainly weighing more than than infamous 150 billion ton mountain.
the thing about magneto's power his that i havent read anywhere that magnetism actually comes from his body, as in the natural electromagnetism in his body is somehow multiplied or amplified. ive alwys understood it to be the same way they explain cyclops power by saying that"his eyes are inter-dimnesional apertures between this universe and another...where photons give off kinteic energy" or any magic or cosmic types the way they "tap into the infinite, ambient fields of energy and weild it for destruction". so i think it all boils down to how much power magneto can tap into thats why it says every where that it is practically limitless. so i really dont think he would have more trouble than whats expected from the hulk.
someone mentioned that he loses cuz wolverine gutted him. HELLO!! he was high out of his freaking mind!
hulk can bend adamantium. thats been established.
hulk would be able to physically use his brute strngth to rip a hole through any magnetic force feild of any kind using his bare hands.
i mean seriously...what could sctually 'stop' the hulk from doing something he wants to do. nothing in this universe can be 'wrapped' around the hulk w/o him physically overpowering it...even if it is energy itself. he has proved this many times. it would be an interesting fight...only in the sense that it would be interesting how long it would take for the hulk to finally get his hands on mags...if mags tries to fight him upfront it would suck because mags would lose right away and it would be a stupid comic (but on to end this debate)...but if mags ran away it would be fun to watch how desperate mags becomes to escape from the hulk. it would be a mini series of eight issues about mags running away and hiding all over the world and in ou galaxy...untill the hulk finally get him. it would last only eight issues.
Re: All magneto
Originally posted by turboman1691
All you Hulk advocates have got to crazy, even those of you who say magneto but w/ a very difficult time. The correct answer to this questions is: magento and with absolutely no trouble whatsoever. Everyone keeps talking about how STRONG the hulk is, but don't you remember Asteroid M? This this was the size of a small city, and would have weighted millions of tons, yet Magnus lifted it into space. (Granted this exhauseted him, but this was a feat that the hulk could never even have dreamed of. Also, all Magnus has to do is wrap something around the Hulk and lift him off the ground and away from objects he could throw and the hulk is powerless. Magneto could wrap a traffic light around him and force him under water until he drowned and the hulk would be powerless to stop him. The hulk only has one thing on his side, brut strength, and the sheer fact of the matter is that even in that catagory, he is soooo far out matched by Eric that he could never provide a decent challenge for him.
Also, think about this: Magneto ripped Apocolypse into pieces and we can't ever begin to argue that the hulk is as strong, or nearly as strong as Apocolypse. And I know you're all going to say: "but the hulk isn't made out of metal like Apoc. BLAH BLAH BLAH." But Erik could wrap metal around all his appendages and rip the hulk into pieces, and I believe that would be beyond the scope of even the hulk's healing abilities.
You're obviously a very arrogant and very young individual. There is no 'correct answer.' The fact is, all the Hulk advocates have just as much to back them up as you being a Magneto advocate. Hulk could never have dreamed of lifting an asteroid? Considering he can't control himself in space, you're right, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the weight of the object. There has never been a determined limit to the amount of weight Hulk can lift, ergo your point is mistaken. Furthermore, Hulk is much stronger than Apocalypse, how you can 'begin to argue' otherwise proves you don't know much about the Hulk. Also, 'Eric' is not going to 'rip Hulk into pieces' no matter what kind of metal he wraps around him. I'm not exactly a 'Hulkamaniac' or anything, but I know enough of his background, something you obviously do not. Therefore you haven't any business acting as though you are the correct one in this manner and that everyone else is crazy. This is not a question with a right answer and a wrong answer. It is designed to be a fun question and besides that, there are only probable assumed answers as THE CHARACTERS ARE NOT REAL.
Well you obviously know soo much about the hulk, why exactly couldn't he be ripped to pieces? I remember both asphyxiation and nuclear bombs forcing the hulk to resort back to his Bruce Banner status for brief periods of time, so obviously he is vulnerable. A nuclear bomb only has so much power and one of those was powerful to knock the hulk out momentarily; whereas Magneto, at least for brief periods of time, seems to have no limit to his abilities. He once sent an EM pulse from Asteriod M that was strong enough to shut down everything mechanical in the world.
And to take the easy way out as some others have pointed out, he could simply carry hulk to outter space. Or if you say that for some mysterious reason he couldn't wrap the hulk w/ anything to get him into outter space; he could fly to space himself w/ a chunk of metal and rock about a mile wide or so, propel it back into earth where the hulk is and the force would hit w/ the force of hundreds of nuclear bombs (enough to kill the hulk, or at least to transform him back to Bruce Banner and make him an easy target for Magnus.