Storm vs Thor

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She not all stupid and eosn't have the help of magicdoing everything which also makes her>>>>Thor.

Also, did you agree with your own post as if another person posted it?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Even here he his was a noob Shaman who basically just became Shaman not to long ago.

He might have been a noob to Alpha Flight but he was well-versed in the magical arts by this time.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Heck, Storm was struggling to even manipulate the storm when it was first created when they were on the DC-10. She was shocked, and couldn't manipulate it or doing so would bring down the plane.

IIRC, she wasn't struggling, she was more surprise. Also, seeing that she diffused the storm after it had grown in power, it more then likely, that the only thing holding her back was the safety of the plane.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Also where or where did it state the storm was to much for Shaman?

If Shaman had the power he would have stopped the storm the moment it broke through his mystical field. As you can see, he was shocked by the sheer power of the storm.

Again, if he had any control over the storm, he would have diffused it the moment it broke throught his field.

So, if Shaman had any ability to stop the storm, he would have, way before Storm was forced to take control of it.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
He might have been a noob to Alpha Flight but he was well-versed in the magical arts by this time.

Actually no he wasn't. He was good, but was new to magic in general.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

IIRC, she wasn't struggling, she was more surprise. Also, seeing that she diffused the storm after it had grown in power, it more then likely, that the only thing holding her back was the safety of the plane.

Yeah, because the storm resisted her power and even at that time she COULDN'T alter the storm till they finally told her to stop or she would destroy the plane.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

If Shaman had the power he would have stopped the storm the moment it broke through his mystical field. As you can see, he was shocked by the sheer power of the storm.

Again, if he had any control over the storm, he would have diffused it the moment it broke throught his field.

So, if Shaman had any ability to stop the storm, he would have, way before Storm was forced to take control of it.

Your not to familar with Shaman are you? He has sucked up an atomic bomb, all of the Avengers/Alpha Flight/People's Proctate and Newfoundland in seconds, he has frozen time simply by saying the words "shush", he defused a storm creation by the would-be God Ranark with a single powder. He has buables that make the universe itself seem to pop out of existance, he has powders that literally drain all the moisture in an area where there is nothing left with one powder and make it all drain out instantly, he has a powder that makes things instantly freeze for miles around, etc, etc.

No he said, "I don't know". As I mentioned he wasn't even versed with magic that well yet. Once again no where did it state he lost control. Hell he himself has battled Carcass and saved all of reality on his own, yet a storm getting the better of him? Uh huh.

What are you talking about? Soon as when he said "I do not know", Storm rushes over and tries to stop it herself. No where did it state Shaman couldn't stop the storm or did it show him even try, and why couldn't he stop it? as he has stopped far more.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually no he wasn't. He was good, but was new to magic in general.

Yeah, because the storm resisted her power and even at that time she COULDN'T alter the storm till they finally told her to stop or she would destroy the plane.

Your not to familar with Shaman are you? He has sucked up an atomic bomb, all of the Avengers/Alpha Flight/People's Proctate and Newfoundland in seconds, he has frozen time simply by saying the words "shush", he defused a storm creation by the would-be God Ranark with a single powder. He has buables that make the universe itself seem to pop out of existance, he has powders that literally drain all the moisture in an area where there is nothing left with one powder and make it all drain out instantly, he has a powder that makes things instantly freeze for miles around, etc, etc.

No he said, "I don't know". As I mentioned he wasn't even versed with magic that well yet. Once again no where did it state he lost control. Hell he himself has battled Carcass and saved all of reality on his own, yet a storm getting the better of him? Uh huh.

What are you talking about? Soon as when he said "I do not know", Storm rushes over and tries to stop it herself. No where did it state Shaman couldn't stop the storm or did it show him even try, and why couldn't he stop it? as he has stopped far more.

Continent-sized blizzard>>>>>>>>>>>atomic bomb. BIG TIME!

In Uncanny 120, Storm takes control of Shaman's blizzard from him, double's it power and turns it back upon him.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

Anyway...as I said earlier Thor is more powerful while Storm is more creative. Magic is greater then mutant power.

I don't agree with this part when it comes to Ororo. CC even stated on the very old Wizard boards that Ororo's resonance with life is kinda mystical-esque.

Storm has bested magic weather manipulators before. She bested Shaman. In Cable issue 18 or 19, it was stated that her control over the elements cannot be matched.

Originally posted by Badabing
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Anyway, Thor wins the weather battle.

Then you wake up to reality and see that Storm has made him a grease spot on a mountainside...

Originally posted by Rutog98
Continent-sized blizzard>>>>>>>>>>>atomic bomb. BIG TIME!

In Uncanny 120, Storm takes control of Shaman's blizzard from him, double's it power and turns it back upon him.

Exagerating much? it wasn't a continent-sized blizzard, some places had unexpected snowfall not a blizzard. Regardless..a blizzard does more damage then a nuke? and by your logic..BIG TIME! hmm...

What? no she didn't. She never doubled it, and she never turned it back on him. She defused the storm, which completly drained her.

EDIT: I think your remembering it wrong, as Shaman was none the worse for wear from creating a storm [easily mind you] that Storm said nearly killed her before, and left her drained when she tryed to defuse it. While Shaman...stayed fresh. So how did she best Shaman? No where did Storm double the storm, and no where did Storm turn the storm on Shaman. You must be remembering a different character or event.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm has bested magic weather manipulators before. She bested Shaman.

WHAT? WOW

Originally posted by Rutog98
I don't agree with this part when it comes to Ororo. CC even stated on the very old Wizard boards that Ororo's resonance with life is kinda mystical-esque.

Storm has bested magic weather manipulators before. She bested Shaman. In Cable issue 18 or 19, it was stated that her control over the elements cannot be matched.

Didn't CC also write Thor beating Storm in COCII, in fact Thor seemed rather assumed at her thinking she could harm him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he said, "I don't know". As I mentioned he wasn't even versed with magic that well yet. Once again no where did it state he lost control.

Reread the pic, it pretty much show that Shaman lost control of the storm. If he had control of the storm then he wouldn't have been shocked when it broke through his mystical field.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hell he himself has battled Carcass and saved all of reality on his own, yet a storm getting the better of him? Uh huh.

IIRC, you're talking about a much later Shaman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What are you talking about? Soon as when he said "I do not know", Storm rushes over and tries to stop it herself.

Uh...no. When he said that, Storm was in middle of her fight with Snowbird, thus Shaman had plenty of time to stop the storm before Storm took over.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No where did it state Shaman couldn't stop the storm or did it show him even try, and why couldn't he stop it? as he has stopped far more.

Again, he had plenty of time to stop but he didn't.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
EDIT: I think your remembering it wrong, as Shaman was none the worse for wear from creating a storm [easily mind you] that Storm said nearly killed her before, and left her drained when she tryed to defuse it.

Just for the record, I don't think she was talking about creating the storm, she was talking about stopping such a powerful storm.🙂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
storm has already beaten wonderwoman in the marvel vs dc crossover that makes her a class 100 mutant so thor is no match for her cause shes still undefeated today

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Reread the pic, it pretty much show that Shaman lost control of the storm. If he had control of the storm then he wouldn't have been shocked when it broke through his mystical field.

I did, and all he says.." I...I..Don't know", if you know anything about Shaman you damn well know he has gotten far worse under control in seconds. What are you talking about? the magical shield ONLY circled the stadium, while the storm continued outside and covered the entire city. The shield was not holding the storm, it was holding the X-Men and Alpha Flight.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

IIRC, you're talking about a much later Shaman.

Actually no, most of those feats I mentioned are just a few issues after UXM #120-121.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

Uh...no. When he said that, Storm was in middle of her fight with Snowbird, thus Shaman had plenty of time to stop the storm before Storm took over.

You mean where all she did was wrap her cloak around Snowbird very quickly and simply in a page? That was not a lot of time, but being Shaman he was most likely shifting through his pouch to find the right powder. However, like I mentioned earlier, few issues later with a single powder he takes control and disperses the would-be God Ranark's storm instantly. You have to know Shaman, this storm was not out of his range at all.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

Again, he had plenty of time to stop but he didn't.

No he didn't, right after he said I don't know, Storm literally took to the skys and defused the storm. We never saw Shaman do anything, while we know he CAN do something.

Originally posted by HandOfFate

Just for the record, I don't think she was talking about creating the storm, she was talking about stopping such a powerful storm.🙂

Nope, she tried to MAKE a storm like this and nearly died. In the last few panels she states it.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg13.jpg

Originally posted by spidey-dude
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That Storm was CLEARLY out of Shaman's control. He was stutering

It's sad how you all try to rob the character so shamelessy.

Storm was fighting Snowbird for at least 8 panels, iirc.

And she said she tried to SHAPE a storm like that.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
That Storm was CLEARLY out of Shaman's control. He was stutering

It's sad how you all try to rob the character so shamelessy.

Storm was fighting Snowbird for at least 8 panels, iirc.

ORLY? "Shush"..time stop. Your not familar with Shaman are you?

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0014.jpg

When have I ever did that? Honestly, have you ever seen be ever do that?

and 8 panels equal what in real time? It was literally seconds as Storm even admited she had to act fast

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And she said she tried to SHAPE a storm like that.

That's the same thing as creating. She tried to shape something of that magnitude before and it nearly killed her. She couldn't even simply stop the storm, she had to disperse the storm across the continent.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
ORLY? "Shush"..time stop. Your not familar with Shaman are you?

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0014.jpg

When have I ever did that? Honestly, have you ever seen be ever do that?

and 8 panels equal what in real time? It was literally seconds as Storm even admited she had to act fast

That's the same thing as creating. She tried to shape something of that magnitude before and it nearly killed her. She couldn't even simply stop the storm, she had to disperse the storm across the continent.

He lost control. Vindicator even asked him what was up, he was CLUELESS.

Was the Storm still going after she did what she did??? Nope. She stopped it.

No small feat condiering your average Storm has the power of sever atomic bombs going off every second and she didn't do it by sitting on her ass and blowing powder or waiting for some sooped-up meat-tenserizer to do it.

She did it with her own body.

It should also be noted that she tapped the electrical POTENTIAL of the earth ITSELF at the same time.

THE.ELECTRICAL.POTENTIAL.

It should be noted that Storm herself admits that Thor is much more powerful.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It should be noted that Storm herself admits that Thor is much more powerful.

Never happened.

Actually it did, and CC even wrote a fight between the two in COCII and Storm was shown as having no chance.