Batman 89 and Batman Returns

Okay I cant believe all of what I am seeing here.Batman 89 and Batman Returns were crappy movies, except for a few wise people all I see here is people talking about how great they are and how they are actually better than Batman Forever and how Batman Forever and Batman and Robin suck.Whats even more hilarious is people actually saying it was better than Batman Begins.If you all would actually read the comicbooks you would know how insane it is to make those kind of statements.

The first two Batman movies were a disgrace to the Batman comics because 1.they were all about the villians and Batman was hardly in it.2.They had little action in it like a Batman movie should have.3.We never knew Bruce Waynes motivations or reasons for fighting crime or why he dressed up like a bat.None of that was explained until Batman Forever when it should have been explained in the first one,the origin story.3.Michael Keaton as Batman? You got to be kidding me.Yeah right.How could Burton make such a horrible casting choice in Keaton? He so much had the wrong look and wrong physical build and was so miscast.Val Kilmer at least had the right look and the right physical build.4.But the worst sin of all for Burtons stupid Batfilms is how he made Batman a killer.Committing the ultimate crime,killing The Joker.His arch villian.then later the penguin.

Thank goodness for Nolan.He is a fans director and unlike Burton,cares about the fans and cared about doing Batmans character justice.Burton ruined everything Batman stood for.

Although I agree with you, perpetuating this argument over and over again is not going to do anything but pool more resentment.

Although I disagree with you......in both Batman Forever as well as Batman Begins, Batman does indeed kill his villains again....so that point is just not that good.

Batman is n ot aboot action, it's just a side effect of it. Batman was always stories....and the Villains are a big part in them. Oh and we saw some of Batmans screwed up psyche in 89. I don't thinl that the origin story was necessary ion 89. It was not a movie aboot Bruce Wayne but aboot Batmans start and especially the Villain, joker. There were three films that followed, in each of them one could learn more aboot more (could as in, we did not cause they were screwed up). But there was just one movie that could show the Joker and what a great Joker it was.

Keaton although he doesn't really look like Wayne acted relatively good while Val Kilme and even worse Clooney sucked big time.

Now what Schumacher did to Batman is jsut an atrocity, he killed the character, he made him a second rate superan, nothing more. HE surely didn't care aboot the fans...well maybe the 12 year old fans that like bright colors but that's it.

I agree with Nolan though, his Batman is by far the best. Burtons is interesting though.

Originally posted by snake_eyes616
Okay I cant believe all of what I am seeing here.Batman 89 and Batman Returns were crappy movies, except for a few wise people all I see here is people talking about how great they are and how they are actually better than Batman Forever and how Batman Forever and Batman and Robin suck.Whats even more hilarious is people actually saying it was better than Batman Begins.If you all would actually read the comicbooks you would know how insane it is to make those kind of statements.

The first two Batman movies were a disgrace to the Batman comics because 1.they were all about the villians and Batman was hardly in it.2.They had little action in it like a Batman movie should have.3.We never knew Bruce Waynes motivations or reasons for fighting crime or why he dressed up like a bat.None of that was explained until Batman Forever when it should have been explained in the first one,the origin story.3.Michael Keaton as Batman? You got to be kidding me.Yeah right.How could Burton make such a horrible casting choice in Keaton? He so much had the wrong look and wrong physical build and was so miscast.Val Kilmer at least had the right look and the right physical build.4.But the worst sin of all for Burtons stupid Batfilms is how he made Batman a killer.Committing the ultimate crime,killing The Joker.His arch villian.then later the penguin.

Thank goodness for Nolan.He is a fans director and unlike Burton,cares about the fans and cared about doing Batmans character justice.Burton ruined everything Batman stood for.

Hell yeah!!! That is what im trying to tell them.

Totally agree.

Burton's Batman movies rule 😮‍💨

The thread starter of this thread hit the nail right on the head.He is so right.Burtons Batman movies suck royally.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
The thread starter of this thread hit the nail right on the head.He is so right.Burtons Batman movies suck royally.

so true...as far as I'm concerned Batman Begins it the first "true" live action Batman movie.

Batman 89 was a GREAT movie.

Originally posted by Joker1237
Batman 89 was a GREAT movie.

I agree.

So was Batman Returns.

ppl are so ignorant. i give up trying to tell them that B89 and BR are awsome films and surpass anything schumacher AND nolan has ever done. nolan didnt have style. schumacher had TOO much. i didnt enjoy BB at all like i did B89, its a pure awsome batman film and ppl on here feel threatned that it is and was a much bigger success then BB was. you could not believe the hupe for B89 back then, it was insane. ppl loved it, and its still the highest grossing (and most memorable) Batman film to date. keaton was awsome, everything about the film was awsome. i dont pay attention to moronic threads like this that only aim to critisize the shear greatness and awsomeness that is B89 and BR. they were great films, they were BATMAN films, and you my friend are a ignorant f*** that wouldnt know a good film if it bit you in the ass. ppl saying "oh i totally agree with you" are also just as ignorant. im ashamed to even be apart of this forum, what a bunch ignorant non-batman fans!

Batman and batman returns sucked pretty bad.

And the previous post is one of the most fascists and childish stuff that i have read in these forums ever.

Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Batman and Robin were all excellent movies.

The true evil here is Batman Begins. I think that movie was absolutely horrible. But did I start a thread about it? No.

And the previous post is one of the funniest posts ever.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Batman and Robin were all excellent movies.

The true evil here is Batman Begins. I think that movie was absolutely horrible. But did I start a thread about it? No.

You thought Batman and Robin was excellent but you hate Batman Begins?? 🤨

Originally posted by Mainstream
so true...as far as I'm concerned Batman Begins it the first "true" live action Batman movie.

It sure is.Right on my man. 💃

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You thought Batman and Robin was excellent but you hate Batman Begins?? 🤨

I dont know who's posts are more insane now,this guy gives Batman Returns a run for his money.I'd say its pretty even now of who is the poster on here who doesnt have a clue on anything about batman. 😆 😆

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You thought Batman and Robin was excellent but you hate Batman Begins?? 🤨

Hell yes. To each his own, I guess.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You thought Batman and Robin was excellent but you hate Batman Begins?? 🤨

I would have to say the same to you doc when saying you liked keaton as batman even though many people have pointed out how horribly miscast he was in that role or you actually liked the burton batman movies? . 🤨 I guess like he said though,to each his own.

Who is "Many people"???

The few people in this thread???

I think the huge success of Burton's Batman movies speaks on how the people in general liked Keaton as Batman.

Money talks.

Look at 'Catwoman' with Halle Berry.That crap fest bombed big time at the box office and was slayed by the critics.