October Debate: The Mystery Surrounding Dumbledores Death

that's a good thought danagrint.

thanks🙂 but who knows what J.K. rowling will do next...

your welcome. true true true...

Originally posted by Saratn
i think he is dead, yet he could be alive. his death i think was planned, not by accident, and i don't think it was fake. if anyone wants to hear my theory i shall wait, because it is long tiresome and gruesome.

I agree fully. I'm nintey-nine point nine nine nine percent sure that he's dead...

lol the other 0.0001 percent is

I, personally, think he is dead. He couldn't have survived the fall damn, even if Snape didn't use the curse correctly.

(OT, Rogue, did we vote this? I don't remember voting for some reason...)

the .0001 or what ever amount of zeroes it was counts towards my insanity.
Dumbledore is either dead or alive. but which is it?
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

i do think dumby is dead but it still doesn't stop that from being a good theory

Seriously, that "he shouldn't have flown backwards' idea is the most desperate Potter idea I have ever heard. He fllew back because of drama, and then fell out of a huge tower, afetr being hit by a clearly spoken killing curse.

He's dead, get used to it.

^ hear,hear.

rest in peace man ✅

look it's a book it might be possible it might not we just got to wait till book 7

Originally posted by The Phantom
I, personally, think he is dead. He couldn't have survived the fall damn, even if Snape didn't use the curse correctly.

(OT, Rogue, did we vote this? I don't remember voting for some reason...)

Good Point But if you remember harry has fallen alot farther and is still living.

As for the people who keep bringing up their "he's still alive" theories, I do have to give them credit. They've done some fine analization (real word?!) but I just can't bring myself to believe that Dumbledore is still out walkin and talkin somewhere.

Good Point But if you remember harry has fallen alot farther and is still living

but dumbledore slowed him down magically some how

well that all depends doesn't it? I see your point though. I'm of the opinion that Snape killed Dumbledore but DD asked him too. I don't believe DD is alive either

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Seriously, that "he shouldn't have flown backwards' idea is the most desperate Potter idea I have ever heard. He fllew back because of drama, and then fell out of a huge tower, afetr being hit by a clearly spoken killing curse.

He's dead, get used to it.

He has a very good point. The whole idea is kinda of desperate. You'll keep on harping about that one scene. DD IS DEAD

I think DD is dead, but he planned his death. He knew he had to die to save the Malfoy's I belive. Or maybe not, whatever.

I dislike those "it is a book, anything can happen" points as well. Because, well, sure, of course it can. Rowling can decide that Hogwarts is actually made out of green jelly and the whole thing has been set on Pluto the whole time if she wants. The author can change or re-do ANYTHING.

But on that basis, any speculation would be effectively useless. All we can do is comment on what has been presented so far. And based on that... DD is as dead as a doornail.

Spin out reasons as to why this is not a bad thing, or why he planned it like that, all you like- but there is little ground in claiming he isn't actually dead. And there is no need to give him a damn Gandalf complex either.

A lot of the desire to see him still alive is because people want Snape to be a good guy, basically.

Very well then, let's have it all out here, As this is the official debate thread, let's hear what is now, basically, the dominant view- that it was a plan of Dumbledore's. Let's hear all the reasons and see if they can be attacked. Else there won't be much debate.

Just a random idea/thought. I am not saying this is what i believe. Just a possibility which i would like to hear opinions on..

What if dumbledore is an animagus of a phoenix, and can be reborn?

At the funeral (when his body suddenly erupted into flames)

White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished. (HBP pg 645/601)

Wow! NOW PEOPLE GET YELLED AT FOR HAVING AN OPIONIN