Researching the "Rape Culture" of America...

However is "fingering" - which I take it you mean fondling - of a man's genitalia comparable, considering I'm assuming an unwanted penetration of a woman (although I am not a woman so wouldn't know) by fingers would cause physical pain.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, I am certainly not cheapening Bilb's experience.

And not that it compares, I am sure, but I have been sexually assaulted myself.

its not a mtter of comparison.. being violated is being violated.. thats my point.. is that stats dont matter when sucj a horrible thing is happening

pain & grief over similar experiences are not a competition

Originally posted by bilb
if it makes you feel better sure go ahead 🙂

and Ok paul.. we'll change tactics a bit here:

if rape werent prevalant there would be no reason for the perception of men as potential attackers .. right?

Men go around south america growing huge fields of marijuana and around africa performing ethnic cleansing...

doesnt mean every man does it... 😬

Originally posted by pr1983
Men go around south america growing huge fields of marijuana and around africa performing ethnic cleansing...

doesnt mean every man does it... 😬

very true,, but a girl SHOULD protect herself shouldnt she?

Err, I think the capacity for pain is equal, X.

And whilst I see what you are saying, Bilb, the fact is that sexual assault can still be classified by severity. Some forms are worse than others, and punishment must fit the scale of it.

Originally posted by pr1983
Men go around south america growing huge fields of marijuana and around africa performing ethnic cleansing...

doesnt mean every man does it... 😬

Yes 😐

And I beleive it's an even bigger problem for men to tell they were raped than for woman......

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err, I think the capacity for pain is equal, X.

And whilst I see what you are saying, Bilb, the fact is that sexual assault can still be classified by severity. Some forms are worse than others, and punishment must fit the scale of it.

yes it CAN be.. i am just not so sure it SHOULD be is my point

and by the by.. very sorry for what happened to you

Originally posted by bilb
very true,, but a girl SHOULD protect herself shouldnt she?

of course, but she should also have the sense not to put herself in a potentially dangerous position... but again we're moving away from the topic... 😬

edit: sorry double post...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes 😐

And I beleive it's an even bigger problem for men to tell they were raped than for woman......

Definately... ✅

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes 😐

And I beleive it's an even bigger problem for men to tell they were raped than for woman......

and THAT needs to be addressed as well.. cause as I have said over & over.. violaion is violation no matter what

Originally posted by pr1983
of course, but she should also have the sense not to put herself in a potentially dangerous position... but again we're moving away from the topic... 😬

That's very kind.

But I think perhaps it should; I think a guy who kindnaps a girl and ties her up and rapes her in every way conceivable, forcibly, and with damage, should be seen as doing a worse thing than a drunk guy who was too dumb to think a girl meant no when he fondled her for a few minutes.

Not that I am saying what drunk guy did wasn't wrong, but it is a palpably different scale to the first.

Originally posted by bilb
and THAT needs to be addressed as well.. cause as I have said over & over.. violaion is violation no matter what

true...

now please...

TOPIC...

blowup

Originally posted by pr1983
of course, but she should also have the sense not to put herself in a potentially dangerous position... but again we're moving away from the topic... 😬

maybe its a chick thing but i just dont see how you can seperate the act & the emotions

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
pr could you clarify as to what the topic officially was. Still reading the article....

The topic is...

How does it feel being a man and being told that being able to commit rape is a natural part of our biology...

Originally posted by bilb
maybe its a chick thing but i just dont see how you can seperate the act & the emotions

I dont see how i said otherwise... 😮

Originally posted by pr1983
The topic is...

How does it feel being a man and being told that being able to commit rape is a natural part of our biology...

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's very kind.

But I think perhaps it should; I think a guy who kindnaps a girl and ties her up and rapes her in every way conceivable, forcibly, and with damage, should be seen as doing a worse thing than a drunk guy who was too dumb to think a girl meant no when he fondled her for a few minutes.

Not that I am saying what drunk guy did wasn't wrong, but it is a palpably differenr scale to the first.

thats true when you come to the punishment phase of the case, but when talking about the issue in general a crime is a crime

and i know what you men paul.. but not all women see all men as rapists.. its just that you have to be careful.. and yes th eones who arent are just being dumb.. but that doesnt mean they deserve to be raped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As a man and a biologist I say it's nonsense.

✅

Originally posted by pr1983
The topic is...

How does it feel being a man and being told that being able to commit rape is a natural part of our biology...

I dont see how i said otherwise... 😮

Originally posted by bilb
thats true when you come to the punishment phase of the case, but when talking about the issue in general a crime is a crime

and i know what you men paul.. but not all women see all men as rapists.. its just that you have to be careful.. and yes th eones who arent are just being dumb.. but that doesnt mean they deserve to be raped

But thats what im saying... not all women SHOULD see all men as rapists... they should just have a bit of common sense... if a girl spends a night getting twenty drinks off a guy and then agrees to go home with him, what does she honestly think he's expecting?