Researching the "Rape Culture" of America...

Well, great.

Rapes all around.

umm SEX is natural.. RAPE is not

its a mtter of control not 'spreading one's seed' 😖

You're putting morals on evolution?

long pig... evolution is a theory.

Also. Animals don't have free will or love. They have instinct. Humans on the other hand do and can make choices based on their experiences and wants in life to love someone or not; or to harm someone or not.

Animals don't have free will or love. They have instinct.

evolution is a theory

We are animals, just bald monkeys with big brains and natural urges, and a few of those natural urges evolved for some as violence/rape/murder.

Doesn't make it ok, it doesn't make it right, it just makes it the truth.

Originally posted by long pig
Says who? Maybe animals are just assholes who like to kill each other and rape bitches while flinging dung. No one knows for sure.

A theory that just so happens to be 100% true.

We are animals, just bald monkeys with big brains and natural urges, and a few of those natural urges evolved for some as violence/rape/murder.

Doesn't make it ok, it doesn't make it right, it just makes it the truth.

No, I'm pretty sure that's instinct.

Evolution is a theory. And are you trying to justify murder?

Originally posted by Echuu

Also. Animals don't have free will or love. They have instinct. Humans on the other hand do and can make choices based on their experiences and wants in life to love someone or not; or to harm someone or not.

spot on

Murder is justifiable.

Are you trying to prove Creationism? 🤨

Originally posted by long pig
Murder is justifiable.

Are you trying to prove Creationism? 🤨

Murder is justifiable in certain situations. You seem to be trying to justify all murder in your other post.

Did I say I was trying to prove creationism? 😉

Not really, no.
I just implied it, the same way you implied Creationism. 😉

Sex is natural. Most definitely. Rape is natural? Well that depends on whether you believe a concept of "consent" exists amongst other animals. Even if one is to argue that rape is a result of primitive instinct - the desire for sex - it doesn't really mitigate the act of rape as higher brain functions due to biological evolution and human cultural evolution have made human life anything but natural.

Originally posted by bilb
umm SEX is natural.. RAPE is not

its a mtter of control not 'spreading one's seed' 😖

well, rape occurs in nature among some primates and higher mammals but it is usually committed against subordinate males as a rite of subordination. Rape among humans is deviant in nearly every society except for several historical ones. In any case, our cultural revolution has gone to the point where rape IS an unnatural crime against humanity and should be treated as such.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
well, rape occurs in nature among some primates and higher mammals but it is usually committed against subordinate males as a rite of subordination. Rape among humans is deviant in nearly every society except for several historical ones. In any case, our cultural revolution has gone to the point where rape IS an unnatural crime against humanity and should be treated as such.

We have evolved....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sex is natural. Most definitely. Rape is natural? Well that depends on whether you believe a concept of "consent" exists amongst other animals. Even if one is to argue that rape is a result of primitive instinct - the desire for sex - it doesn't really mitigate the act of rape as higher brain functions due to biological evolution and human cultural evolution have made human life anything but natural.

EXCELLENT post!!

Originally posted by long pig
Not really, no.
I just implied it, the same way you implied Creationism. 😉

Okay. This kinda threw me off.

"We are animals, just bald monkeys with big brains and natural urges, and a few of those natural urges evolved for some as violence/rape/murder."

Anger and lust may be natural urges but the lashing out in murder, violence, or rape can be controled.

I never implied creationism. I said evolution is a theory.
I believe in creationism but that doesn't change the fact that both evolution and creationism are theories of how the world came into existence.

not to jump on any bandwagons but i think the under lying theme that bilb was trying to bring across is that stats dont mean anyhting to the person the crime was perpetrated against. meaning, thats like saying to a girl who was raped, "11 girls were raped this year, but last year it was 15.......sooooooooo...at least the number is lower, right?" *shrugs shoulders*

Originally posted by Echuu
Okay. This kinda threw me off.

"We are animals, just bald monkeys with big brains and natural urges, and a few of those natural urges evolved for some as violence/rape/murder."

Anger and lust may be natural urges but the lashing out in murder, violence, or rape can be controled.

That's the point: they can be 'controlled'. This implies their presence.

That's not to say we are naturally rapists, just that society has evolved to a different point. We are now more aware of, and place a higher value on, the feelings of others- both legally and morally.

you think we'd even be talking about this if we were like Israel and taught the majority of it's public school students Krav Magah?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
you think we'd even be talking about this if we were like Israel and taught the majority of it's public school students Krav Magah?

LOL...yes, we would. Rape would just take longer, and we'd be selling tickets to it.

really? cause i would think that a guy having his eye plucked out would be a real deterrent.
I mean, don't get me wrong, i'm not generally a violent person, but i see absolutely no problem with using sickening degrees of violence against rapists.