Originally posted by Spelljammer
The only differance between abortion and the death penalty is what it takes to make something un-human.For the left, if it no longer bennefits your motives, then it's no longer human. Sense a fetus is tottaly dependant, it can't offer you anything, so you see it as worthless and easily discarable. Because that's the type of meglomaniac people you are.
For the right, if it does something to break "the code" then it's no longer human. Sense serial killers and the like revoked thier hummanity supposedly by breaking said code, they become seen as some abomonation and easily discarable. Because that's the type of self rightouss people they are.
And you know what? Better to kill people who can defend themselves, then something that can't. Maybe we should go with Capt_Fantastic's plan, and stick them in a wilderness and for a small fee people can hunt criminals like they do in the wild for deer. Exsept this type of hunt is open all year round..
Yes I agree...what makes something un-human...hmm either not being a human (fetus) or commiting a deed others might not agree with (Murderer) .....I know how I'd chose.....but then agaijn I don't value human live enough to care if there's a death penalty or not....
What can the sociopath offer the left if he spents his life in prison?
The Code? Where did that "Code" come from? You made it up?
So better to kill a dog than to kill a Flower? Ah yes...I see where you are coming from....
Originally posted by Lana
No it doesn't, do some research. The cost of putting someone to death is FAR more than the cost of locking them up for life.And for the last time, abortion is NOT killing as the fetus is not considered to be alive yet; you are stopping a life from happening, not ending one. There is a difference.
LOL yeah I took my 300 lvl A&P so hey you have your opinion great......
Lana you told me the Death Penalty cost more prove it becuase in the DC area I grea up in I can numbers off the net also about yearly costs of inmates.
My opinion is that when someone violates someone else's right to live they should give up the right of their own.......
AC you have side stepped this to justify drug dealers and morality and rules and blah blah whatever you lost sight so Death penalty is good for those blatant violaters.
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah I took my 300 lvl A&P so hey you have your opinion great......
Lana you told me the Death Penalty cost more prove it becuase in the DC area I grea up in I can numbers off the net also about yearly costs of inmates.My opinion is that when someone violates someone else's right to live they should give up the right of their own.......
AC you have side stepped this to justify drug dealers and morality and rules and blah blah whatever you lost sight so Death penalty is good for those blatant violaters.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/FactSheet.pdf
And I'm of the opinion that no one has the right to decide that.
Originally posted by Lana
And for the last time, abortion is NOT killing as the fetus is not considered to be alive yet; you are stopping a life from happening, not ending one. There is a difference.
Metabolism.
(Hense why women need to eat more when they get pregnant.)
Responsiveness.
(They react to differant things. It's scientificaly proven.)
Growth.
(Obviously they grow.)
Evolution.
(They adapt to the womb and how the woman's body is acting.)
Ecology.
(The fetus is heavily influenced by what the woman puts into her body or lack thereoff and what happens especialy outside the body.)
Therfore, the fetus is more like an animal then a parasite. You should atleast be trialed for animal abuse..
Originally posted by Lana
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/FactSheet.pdfAnd I'm of the opinion that no one has the right to decide that.
Hey thats your opinion it didn't show costs of the inmate though.....however I can respect your opinion Lana even if I don't agree with it.
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/lfb/2003-05budget/2003-05BudgetPapers/236.pdf#search='inmate%20costs'
its a state financial review
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Truly words of another person passed on in the piss-poor guise of wisdom.
Contrary to popular belief, moral relativism is a pile of horseshit. There will ALWAYS be things that are always right and things that are always wrong. It crosses cultural boundaries, it crosses technological and biomedical boundaries; it has no boundaries.
Anyway.
Originally posted by Cepheus
did u guys here a couple of guys here in china were 'executed' for drug dealing.. can u believe that?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
They execute people for drug dealing in Thailand as well, i think.
You know what's funny? Even the religons liberals avoid bashing to try and seem like they aren't out to get everything having to do with morality like Buddhism says that hurricane Katerina MIGHT'VE been the result of bad karma.
Christians say it was "the city of sin" that caused that to be.
The Buddhists say it was alot of pent-up negative karma.
But that doesn't get much air-time on the liberal's meter because then they'd have to admit ALL religons think they're full of horse shit. Infact SpellJammer read the Dalai Lama's book, he thinks alot like SpellJammer does. Maybe a little more patient, and focused then SpellJammer. Then again, he's the friggin Dalai Lama.. 😛
But in all seriousness, SpellJammer doesn't believe what they say neither about the hurricane being sinner's fault. Not because "God has bad aim" or anything like that. But because in nature, shit happens..
But the liberals still are complete twits when it comes to anything having to do with morality or common sense issues. About the only thing they're good at is money. SpellJammer has never seen a poor liberal.. they should stick to bank accounting and running coporate markets and leave the politics and spiritual teachings to the rest of us..
Then again, maybe that's why this world is so liberal bias to begin with. Seeing as coporations DO control us more or less..
Originally posted by FeceMan
Fixed. Again.Contrary to popular belief, moral relativism is a pile of horseshit. There will ALWAYS be things that are always right and things that are always wrong. It crosses cultural boundaries, it crosses technological and biomedical boundaries; it has no boundaries.
Anyway.
Uh...good for those countries.
Do NOT edit my quote again, or I will issue you a ban. This is your warning.
As for the argument - things are not black and white. The world you're living in is a dichotomy, as for the rest of us, it is not. So to make everyones life easier, go move to Chine, Saudi Arabia and Iran - you'll fit in better there.