Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Plain and simple, Superman has too many abilities for Hulk to contend with.Who's stronger? Hulk, for sure.
Who's more durable? Close call.
Who's faster? Superman.
Who can fly? Superman.
Who has the ability to breathe in outer space? Superman.
I'm a huge Hulk fan, but reality is reality. Hulk would have to be very pissed to stand a decent chance of defeating Superman, and even then, one toss into deep space could end the fight for Hulk early on. Simply put, Superman is just too "super-versatile," while Hulk's a one-liner.
In a brawl, I'd take Hulk any day of the week; it's his true forte, and he wouldn't have to worry about super-speed, or getting tossed into orbit. But, in a straight up fight, the Man of Steel takes it.
The Hulk Can do giant jumps that almost seem exactly like flying and even if it was in outer space then the Hulk would only be beaten after a few hours because of the amount of time he can hold is breath for.
Originally posted by brice7
The Hulk Can do giant jumps that almost seem exactly like flying and even if it was in outer space then the Hulk would only be beaten after a few hours because of the amount of time he can hold is breath for.
That's all well and good, but it would only be a matter of time before Hulk passes out for lack of oxygen. Superman seems to have learned how to "breath" in the absense of oxygen. I'd say he outlasts Hulk.
Hulk can jump extremely high. That's quite a bit different than flying. Hulk needs gravity to control his inertia. Superman doesn't. For instance: Hulk throws Superman into deep space; Superman returns in mere moments. Superman throws Hulk into space, and Hulk drifts helplessly into oblivion. See the difference?
Hulk's strong enough to defeat Superman. The problem is, he's a one trick pony. Versatility is the name of the game. Make no mistake; if Superman didn't have super-speed and flight, Hulk would pound him, 😉 but in reality, Superman has this fight in the bag.
I say Supe gots this one hands down. He has so many powers. By definition hes the greatest Super hero ever. I would in terms of strength Superman is still stronger, he is able to throw a Planet through space. Plus he is super fast he able to go faster than the speed of light, also he can travel so fast that he can go back in time or into the future.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
I say Supe gots this one hands down. He has so many powers. By definition hes the greatest Super hero ever. I would in terms of strength Superman is still stronger, he is able to throw a Planet through space. Plus he is super fast he able to go faster than the speed of light, also he can travel so fast that he can go back in time or into the future.
Hulk has many planetary level strength feats, and while Superman['s strength is static, the Hulk's strength is potentially unlimited.
If I recall correctly, the biggest planet Post-Crisis Superman has moved was War-World. Hulk once pulverized a planetoid with over 1000 times the mass of War World with a single strike.
Hulk is stronger, without question, but in a fight, Superman has a steep advantage with his variety of abilities.
I've never seen Superman go faster than the speed of light. It seems like you're referring to Pre-Crisis Superman. Current Superman is not capable of traveling through time, or exceeding light speed, unless he's undergone upgrades that I am currently unaware of.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk has many planetary level strength feats, and while Superman['s strength is static, the Hulk's strength is potentially unlimited.If I recall correctly, the biggest planet Post-Crisis Superman has moved was War-World. Hulk once pulverized a planetoid with over 1000 times the mass of War World with a single strike.
Hulk is stronger, without question, but in a fight, Superman has a steep advantage with his variety of abilities.
I've never seen Superman go faster than the speed of light. It seems like you're referring to Pre-Crisis Superman. Current Superman is not capable of traveling through time, or exceeding light speed, unless he's undergone upgrades that I am currently unaware of.
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
That's pre crisis supermananyway some peple tend to forget or not realise that it's not time that makes the hulk stronger it's the amount of adrenalin, this could be anger,exitement even feer/scared but feer produces more adrenalin then anyother way.
exactly.
i keep hearing that oh before hulk will reach supes level it will be a long TIME or before he can reach that level he's already ko'd ❌
hulk at the very sight of seeing supes could be doubled supes strength and it's not only his strength that increases but also his other physical capabilities.
wht is funny is as people say supes strength is way past hulks yet supes was shown to be just and i mean just above thors and hulk is just as strong as thor but gets stronger, now the time in which thor and supes fought, looking at that and how long it took, hulk would be a whole lot stronger in the time frame they fought and beat the krytonite shit out of supes
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
exactly.i keep hearing that oh before hulk will reach supes level it will be a long TIME or before he can reach that level he's already ko'd ❌
hulk at the very sight of seeing supes could be doubled supes strength and it's not only his strength that increases but also his other physical capabilities.
wht is funny is as people say supes strength is way past hulks yet supes was shown to be just and i mean just above thors and hulk is just as strong as thor but gets stronger, now the time in which thor and supes fought, looking at that and how long it took, hulk would be a whole lot stronger in the time frame they fought and beat the krytonite shit out of supes
Thor and superman had a fight??
yep in
avengers/jla 4 issues crossover they fought in the 1st at bit and more so in the second issue where thor lost, it was mostly as physical competion, no flyong at high speeds, pludging ito orbit like some poeple have posted saying that's going to happen with this fight, there was no godblast either.
Hulk doesn't always get the respect he deserves on this board. He's the strongest one there is, but people often fail to realize it. In truth, Hulk and Superman are equally as strong, until Hulk gets really pissed. Every fight they've had shows this. Neither of them has had a decisive victory over the other(unless you count fan-votes,) because before the fight ends, Hulk either calms down, or the two team up.
I still give the fight to Superman, because Superman has so many advantages. If Superman didn't have superspeed and flight, he would be in big trouble. Hulk's the ultimate brawler, and unless you're totally invincible, you're going to get pounded on in a brawl against the Hulk. Superman wins this fight because of brains, versatility and finesse, not brawn.
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
yep inavengers/jla 4 issues crossover they fought in the 1st at bit and more so in the second issue where thor lost, it was mostly as physical competion, no flyong at high speeds, pludging ito orbit like some poeple have posted saying that's going to happen with this fight, there was no godblast either.
Did you see the mighty Thor versus the Eric Masterson Thor? Printed in The Mighty Thor Volume 1 #458 (1993)
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hulk's "limitless strength" isn't instantaneous. . . Superman's strength is . . .Did hulk just . . . BOUNCE. .
. . . Off of the cactai?
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Hulk doesn't have "infinite strength" in the sense that he can lift any weight at any given time. There have been times when Hulk has had to psyche himself up to become strong enough to perform certain feats. In Marvel, the only people with true infinite strength are the holder of the Infinty Power Gem, and supposedly the Asgardian Destroyer.
The Hulk's strength simply increases geometrically (by exponent) without ever stopping. In that sense, it is limitless. Given enough physical or emotional stress, Hulk can become strong enough to lift or break anything, and physically powerful enough to oppose virtually any force.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube✅ Yup, that's what I'm saying.
Hulk doesn't have "infinite strength" in the sense that he can lift any weight at any given time. There have been times when Hulk has had to psyche himself up to become strong enough to perform certain feats. In Marvel, the only people with true infinite strength are the holder of the Infinty Power Gem, and supposedly the Asgardian Destroyer.The Hulk's strength simply increases geometrically (by exponent) without ever stopping. In that sense, it is limitless. Given enough physical or emotional stress, Hulk can become strong enough to lift or break anything, and physically powerful enough to oppose virtually any force.
Hulk's base strength is less than Superman's base strength.
Originally posted by Creshosk
✅ Yup, that's what I'm saying.Hulk's base strength is less than Superman's base strength.
Not exactly. Hulk's base strength is close or about even to Superman's. Look at some of Hulk's "non angry feats." Holding up a mountain, (and not just in the Secret Wars.) Towing Islands. Toting millions of tons of lumber.
Not that Hulk's calm feats really matter. When is the Hulk ever calm?