Superman vs. Hulk

Yes your right but somone calculated the actual strength needed hulk used and it was in the million range

...million what?

Can't remember the exact number but i believe it was in the highe end millionth range and it was shown on the comic book verses forum in one of the hulk vs superman threads i think

No, I mean like, a million joules of energy he used? Or a million kilowatts?

if i can i will try and lok it up but i think don't quote me but in tons neededin lifting power

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, and he was only bracing it, so he wasn't lifting the entire mountain, just a part of it.

Much like a person can lift part of a car, but that's not really lifting the entire car. . .

Actually, In Secret Wars #8, the mountain fell on him, and he lifted (squatted) it. According to the narration, the portion he supported weighed 150,000,000,000 tons.

Regardless, that's not the feat I'm referring to, either. Hulk supported another, much larger mountain in Hulk/Sentry.

While on the subject, those are far from Hulk's greatest feats of strength. Hulk once pulverized a planetoid that with more than 1000 times the mass of War World with one punch, an he even resisted the matter-antimatter attraction (which required near infinite strength.) Though Hulk wasn't calm when he did either of these, both display just how strong he can become. The potential of his strength is limitless. He can become billions of times stronger than Superman.

Superman still wins.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, and he was only bracing it, so he wasn't lifting the entire mountain, just a part of it.

Much like a person can lift part of a car, but that's not really lifting the entire car. . .

Can a person support a car on his/her back?

The same logic can be used when gauging Superman's planet pushing feats.

I'm not trying to discredit Supes but, I mean, my mom can push a car, but can she lift one?

Savage Hulk at normal strength and Superman at normal strength are approximately at the same level of strength. It's just that Superman has so many other powers that give him the edge. Hulk can't push a planet into a wormhole, because he can't fly, not because he isn't strong enough to. Hulk can, however, knock a planet out of it's orbit, or obliterate it with a single strike.

Superman is a bit stronger than most incarnations of the Hulk. Savage Hulk is the only Hulk that really compares. In terms of physical strength:

Hulk (Grey, Merged, Professor) <<< Superman
Savage Hulk = Superman
Savage Hulk < Sundipped Supeman
Angry Savage Hulk > Superman
Angry Savage Hulk = Sundipped Superman
Angry Savage Hulk < Pre-crisis Superman
Very Angry Savage Hulk > Sundipped Superman
Very Angry Savage Hulk = Pre-Crisis Superman
Mindless Savage Hulk > Pre-Crisis Superman

Note: We don't know how strong Prime is, so he's not on the list.

Hulk can become stronger than any opponent, depending upon how angry he is. That doesn't necessarily mean he can beat any opponent. Very Angry Savage Hulk may be equal in strength to Pre-Crisis Superman, but that doesn't mean Pre-crisis Superman wouldn't trounce him. Hulk could become as strong as Superman Prime (however strong he may be,) and he would still get his butt handed to him. Versatility is the name of the game, and Hulk's a one trick pony.

Good post. 👆

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Can a person support a car on his/her back?

The same logic can be used when gauging Superman's planet pushing feats.

I'm not trying to discredit Supes but, I mean, my mom can push a car, but can she lift one?

Uhh...and what exactly is the difference between pushing and lifting when you're in space, and there is no up or down or forwards or backwards?

Do you think pushing up on a planet from the south pole is more strenuous that pushing it from the equator?

the only thing that can kill superman is kryptointe so superman would win!

Originally posted by Jargon343
Uhh...and what exactly is the difference between pushing and lifting when you're in space, and there is no up or down or forwards or backwards?

Do you think pushing up on a planet from the south pole is more strenuous that pushing it from the equator?

Superman pushes a planet by projecting force behind him (aka flight.) It's almost like his body is a really, really, really powerful rocket.

You have a good point, though.

"Lifting" or even supporting a planet would be impossible, since the said planet isn't in peril of "falling," considering that 'Up' and 'down' are relative to gravitational pull.

Nevertheless, it takes enormous power to push a planet through space.

I have an even better question for you. If I'm doing a handstand, is that the same as lifting the earth?

Any high feats we see in comics are impossible.

Comic book terms, if you have the strength to push/move one, you should pretty much have what it takes to at least give it a go in helding one.

Planet destroyers by theyr own hands should as well.

There is a good point tho. When Superman moves one, in his case its not just strenght. Its flight and strenght that its being used.

So a guy who doesnt fly and does the same or helds one, its exerting hymself more.

Superman also mentioned when he was a lad, that when he flew things felt much lighter to lift.

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I have an even better question for you. If I'm doing a handstand, is that the same as lifting the earth?

You could say that. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so when you stand on a planet, or do a handstand on it, you do shift it's position a fraction of a fraction of a tiny distance. Not quite Superman or Hulk standards you can technically say that we all move planets on a daily basis 🙂

Originally posted by Jargon343
You could say that. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so when you stand on a planet, or do a handstand on it, you do shift it's position a fraction of a fraction of a tiny distance. Not quite Superman or Hulk standards you can technically say that we all move planets on a daily basis 🙂

Hah! I can move the planet!

*jumps up and down*

Originally posted by Jargon343
Uhh...and what exactly is the difference between pushing and lifting when you're in space, and there is no up or down or forwards or backwards?

Do you think pushing up on a planet from the south pole is more strenuous that pushing it from the equator?

But Superman wouldnt be in space if he was moving a planet, if he was pushing a planet he would have to be touching the planet, and to be touching the planet he would have to be in its atmosphere, and if he was in his atmosphere he would be on the planet.if he was in space trying to push a planet, he would be pushing nothing.

And what if the planet had no atmosphere?

But you're missing the point. The point is there is no difference between pushing and lifting a planet.

Originally posted by brice7
Hulks limitless stregnth against Supermans powers who is strongest?
I personally think Superman would win because he is almost invinsible while the the Hulk has limited intellegence.

I'm hoping to find out who you think would win in a fight.

Hulk IMO

Originally posted by Jargon343
And what if the planet had no atmosphere?

But you're missing the point. The point is there is no difference between pushing and lifting a planet.

The point is that it's impossible to lift a planet.