ROTS Sidious, ROTS Vader, Darth Maul vs. Dooku, Ventress, Greivous

Started by Lord Simus13 pages

Wow, in that Q and A on SW.com woth Ian MicDiarmid he said Sidious was the fastest lightsaber fighter in the movies. Sort of arrogant in a way don't you think?

Certainly wasn't proved true. If anything, Obi-Wan versus Anakin was one of the fastest duels in the movies.

But then again Ian is in his sixties and out shape so in a way I might see that statement true, notice the word "might".

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Well in the origional script Sids threw the fight but Sammy L. Jackster wanted to go out like a badass.

Wrong. Mace Windu always had the fight in his hand. Sidious had killed three Jedi Masters and couldn't handle Mace's swordsmanship. Mace is just damn good.

He's talking about the original script where Sidious completely and utterly pwnd Mace and Yoda.

Yep. I saw the special on tv where GL and Sammy talked about that.

I missed the special on that. Hopefully it will be on the extras on the ROTS DVD.

I would've preferred that script; to be honest. Since it is 'Revenge of the Sith'.

Me too I mean having the Jedi be stronger than the Sith when the movie is called 'Revenge of the Sith'.

I think if they were gonna have Mace pwn Sids, least he coulda done was be a better duellist. Sammy looks like he's nekkid in traffic holding his schlong in every scene, while Ian looks like Sammy's stealing his AARP card or Handicapped parking space.

lmao

Originally posted by Lord Simus
He's talking about the original script where Sidious completely and utterly pwnd Mace and Yoda.

Too bad it didn't happen that way. This means Sidious completly did none of that.

I know that why don't you relax.

Escape81

Wow. great arguements. I am one of those who believe Sidious is stronger than Tyranus but have not been able to put up as much of a fight as you have. But to add to why Sidfous is stronger (with the Force, anyways) Mace, who is stronger than Obi-Wan, had trouble holding back Sidious's lightning with his lightsaber while holding his saber with 2 hands. AOTC Obi-Wan easily held back Dooku's with one hand. Yoda easily blocked Tyranus's with his hand but had extreme difficulty blocking Sidious's. As for dueling, it be very close and I'm actually not sure who's better but your Grievous arguement was a very good point.
I don't see how Dooku was hard pressed to defeat GG. In a pure saber duel, perhaps, but if Dooku called upon his impressive force arsenal, GG would be crushed against him.

Still, Obi didn't have very much trouble when he wasn't using the Force.
Obi-wan defeated GG, but that was a long and drawn out fight. Look at how Dooku wasted Obi-wan earlier in the movie. It took about 18 seconds. Dooku is FAR superior to Obi-wan.

Yes, Dooku is superior. But although the Obi vs. Grievous duel lasted a long time, but the actual lightsaber duel part of it was very quick and Obi won it by alot. But also isn't Obi-Wan's fighting style supposed to be good against Grievous? But either way...
palpatine is slow and doesn't have great lightsaber skills. Escape81, compare Dooku in AOTC and ROTS against Palp in that duel against mace.

Yeah, but look at what he did against Yoda. Which shows that he fakes the fight with Mace. But that is for another thread. So is this topic, though.

Mace was able to overcome Sidious' full Force Lightning attack and was FAR less winded than Sidious.

Although not a fact that palpatine threw the Mace duel, it is a fact that he fakes his little "I'm to weak" thing with Mace and Anakin, which is why he seemed winded.
And where'd Avis go. sad I was just starting to get to like him when he left.

Same here. Must be a cool dude if you and I both miss him.

I don't need to listen to your semantics. They got ridiculous. I remember when we had the HUGE arguement about how you thought Mace threw the fight and how I thought Palpatine kicked Mace's ass fair and square. Well, we now have enough venerable proof that Mace won, and you got in a hissy fit when me and you argued about it.

Uh, yeah, I remember that. And when I went into that I didn't know how bad your temper got when someone argued with you and you were the one who had the pissy fit. The others in that thread actually sided with me.

and Escape81, I have to warn you now that no matter what Sorgo will always dislike you for saying Sidious is stronger than Tyranus.

And traditionally, He lost because I later found out he made shit up.

Uh, huh. And you waited to tell me I made it up till now. very convincing.
Damn. Darthsith19 got owned on that thread.

No. No one knows for sure till GL reveals the answer. And if you havn't noticed, I'm winning in the poll I created 22 to 13.

Wow, in that Q and A on SW.com woth Ian MicDiarmid he said Sidious was the fastest lightsaber fighter in the movies. Sort of arrogant in a way don't you think?

Yeah, the fastest would be Yoda. But then again, who says Sidious used his full speed in ROTS? And wasn't the part where he longed at the Jedi supposes to be way faster than it appeared?
If anything, Obi-Wan versus Anakin was one of the fastest duels in the movies.

True dat. Only Grievous moved his sabers faster when he was spinning them.

yeah, and Sidious vs. Dooku should go here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=358340&highlight=sidious+vs+dooku

Here, that reminds me...

Dooku's lightning, one of the hotly contested articles of that old thread...

Dooku manhandling Obi and Anakin...

Handling two fighters...

Dooku handling Anakin's two bladed attack.

I don't know Sorgo all too well. He seems pretty cool from his posts on my thread. But, if he hates me simply because I state my opinion, then so be it. Considering how there isn't really a lot of proof indicating that Dooku is 'more powerful' than Palpatine; when logic dictates the exact opposite. But I won't start anything. He has his opinion and I have mine. The fact of the matter is, it hasn't been proved either way.

Deus, Dooku's lightning is powerful, yeah.

dooku is da bomb!