Scarlet Witch (current) vs. Phoenix Force Jean

Started by leonheartmm26 pages

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You cannot follow anything but the most linear chain of thought Leon.

Did you not just read my posts? The core universe is 616 so the multiverse eventually formed from the main reality. 🙄

Read back then look at this post of yours and see how sill youve made yourself look. 😮 🙄

i didnt get that{sorry must be hard on hearing by now, listenin to you} ummm, which issue was it again?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Hey I'm cool with you GS bar your fanboy bullshit I like you🙂

But as the others on this thread keep pointing out you prove little and talk a lot where Phoenix is concerned🙂

Keep the faith🙂

Stay Whirly 🤘

You sure? Recently youve certainly gone out of your way to mark yourself a hater 😉

But thats cool. Only a forum. Whatever you say.

My scans are sufficient as are my posts its just that some people get too emotionally involved in these irrelevant debates and will argue otherwise. 🙁

No biggie 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i didnt get that{sorry must be hard on hearing by now, listenin to you} ummm, which issue was it again?

Have you bypassed the part of my post which referred to F4?

I then offered to post KG any further references if he asked.

You had your chance this isnt for you.

"KG a multiverse is formed eventually after the creation of a core universe. After time differing vibrational frequencies between atoms cause alternate universes to form and diverge from the core universe at different points in time. The 616 universe as is common knowledge is the core universe and Phoenix created it therefore the multiverse originated from Phoenix."

😬 From where do you derive this opinion ^ and "inform" us all that your opinion is the definitive explanation of what a multiverse is and how it is formed?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Have you bypassed the part of my post which referred to F4?

I then offered to post KG any further references if he asked.

You had your chance this isnt for you.

all that talk, n still no issue number, n i was basically tryin to prove my point to other people here.

I cant believe i missed this ..... 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You sure? Recently youve certainly gone out of your way to mark yourself a hater 😉

But thats cool. Only a forum. Whatever you say.

My scans are sufficient as are my posts its just that some people get too emotionally involved in these irrelevant debates and will argue otherwise. 🙁

No biggie 🙂

I hate no one
I enjoy watching you react
Phoenix means nothing to me
Watching you and Cresh actually care so much about a comic character is funny
anbd I don't think you posts really prove that much, you use supposition fill in parts of the plot and ignore or argue a different line against things that do not fit your view. I think for the comics you cite your often right, but Phoenix just does not fit in with the rest of Marvel - and this is the problem more than anything else.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"KG a multiverse is formed eventually after the creation of a core universe. After time differing vibrational frequencies between atoms cause alternate universes to form and diverge from the core universe at different points in time. The 616 universe as is common knowledge is the core universe and Phoenix created it therefore the multiverse originated from Phoenix."

😬 From where do you derive this opinion ^ and "inform" us all that your opinion is the definitive explanation of what a multiverse is and how it is formed?

Well actually this definition is supported by many online sources. Excalibur old and New and even Uncanny X-men talk of 616 as the core universe. Google multiverse and see what you come up with. With that info fresh in your mind read Excalibur and/or Uncanny X-men and please explain to me why 616 is referred to as the "core" universe, the "main" universe by a variety of sources including Roma the Celestial guardian of the multiverse. 😉

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I hate no one
I enjoy watching you react
Phoenix means nothing to me
Watching you and Cresh actually care so much about a comic character is funny

Its not as one sided as you believe. We enjoy reacting to your trolling and then reacting to your funny reactions.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
anbd I don't think you posts really prove that much, you use supposition fill in parts of the plot and ignore or argue a different line against things that do not fit your view.

We're all entitled to our own opinion. Heres mine..I disagree

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I think for the comics you cite your often right, but Phoenix just does not fit in with the rest of Marvel - and this is the problem more than anything else.

Well it was admirable for you to say that. (Well the first bit anyway lol. )As for not fitting in thats debatable and either way irrelevant because we as readers just have to accept what they shove in our faces. We can either grin and bare it or boycott said comic/s

I don't recall seeing Roma refer to 616 as the "main" reality. Neither "core", unless it was in context like "the core reality of 616" in which case it's not referring to 616 as core it's referring to fundamental reality of 616. Yet she was willing to nullify the "core reality"? So all Phoenix is capable of starting is the "core reality"? Interesting. Where did Otherworld grow from since it isn't part of any particular reality? Good vibrations?

You really shouldn't presume to "inform" people that your personal opinion is the definitive explanation of anything.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't recall seeing Roma refer to 616 as the "main" reality. Neither "core", unless it was in context like "the core reality of 616" in which case it's not referring to 616 as core it's referring to fundamental reality of 616. Yet she was willing to nullify the "core reality"? So all Phoenix is capable of starting is the "core reality"? Interesting. Where did Otherworld grow from since it isn't part of any particular reality? Good vibrations?

You really shouldn't presume to "inform" people that your personal opinion is the definitive explanation of anything.

Well i suggest you head down to the your local comic book store and browse at your leisure. Its common knowledge or at least i thought that 616 was referred to as the main reality.

While it is the main reality the alternate universes are just as legitimate/valid as it and can exist just fine without it.

Do as i suggested and google "multiverse" and see what you come up with.

As for Otherworld i dont have a clue. That doesnt change the the fact that 616 is the main reality and the one from which all others sprung from. Long time Excalibur readers will know this. (If you're out there come vouch for me!!!! LOL)

Dont YOU presume that because you're ignorant on what im informing you of that im just posting personal opinion. That is very arrogant. [B ❌ /B]

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't recall seeing Roma refer to 616 as the "main" reality. Neither "core", unless it was in context like "the core reality of 616" in which case it's not referring to 616 as core it's referring to fundamental reality of 616. Yet she was willing to nullify the "core reality"? So all Phoenix is capable of starting is the "core reality"? Interesting. Where did Otherworld grow from since it isn't part of any particular reality? Good vibrations?

You really shouldn't presume to "inform" people that your personal opinion is the definitive explanation of anything.

and this is my point all along for once I agree with X marks the spot.

Far to much Supposition in these threads 🙂

Since I haven't read the thread since page 2, I'm just going to say old and possibly uninformed: Where was Phoenix when Thanos was raping existance?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well i suggest you head down to the your local comic book store and browse at your leisure. Its common knowledge or at least i thought that 616 was referred to as the main reality.

While it is the main reality the alternate universes are just as legitimate/valid as it and can exist just fine without it.

Do as i suggested and google "multiverse" and see what you come up with.

As for Otherworld i dont have a clue. That doesnt change the the fact that 616 is the main reality and the one from which all others sprung from. Long time Excalibur readers will know this. (If you're out there come vouch for me!!!! LOL)

Dont YOU presume that because you're ignorant on what im informing you of that im just posting personal opinion. That is very arrogant. [B ❌ /B]

Of course it's common knowledge to someone reading the comics that 616 is the "main" reality. That's hardly a basis to say that all the realities are formed from 616 in the way you described. Who within the comics refers to 616 as the main reality? And even so again it's hardly a basis upon which to state that you know exactly how multiverses are formed.
I could google "multiverse" or I could come to my own conclusions. I think I'll do the latter.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Since I haven't read the thread since page 2, I'm just going to say old and possibly uninformed: Where was Phoenix when Thanos was raping existance?

hiding in the "white room" with cream and eric clapton.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Of course it's common knowledge to someone reading the comics that 616 is the "main" reality. That's hardly a basis to say that all the realities are formed from 616 in the way you described. Who within the comics refers to 616 as the main reality? And even so again it's hardly a basis upon which to state that you know exactly how multiverses are formed.
I could google "multiverse" or I could come to my own conclusions. I think I'll do the latter.

A scientific term like multiverse has a definition. In fact it has many definitions but most of them talk of their being a core universe from which others diverge from after the big bang.

Roma and Merlyn in Excalibur have many a time referred to 616 as the main reality, the core reality of the multiverse. Given the definition of the word that means that 616 is the original reality.

Long time Excalibur readers will know this.

Alternatively you could google multiverse and then come to your own conclusions as opposed to not knowing the definition of multiverse and making up your mind from an incomplete picture.

The choice is yours. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A scientific term like multiverse has a definition. In fact it has many definitions but most of them talk of their being a core universe from which others diverge from after the big bang.

Roma and Merlyn in Excalibur have many a time referred to 616 as the main reality, the core reality of the multiverse. Given the definition of the word that means that 616 is the original reality.

Long time Excalibur readers will know this.

Alternatively you could google multiverse and then come to your own conclusions as opposed to not knowing the definition of multiverse and making up your mind from an incomplete picture.

The choice is yours. 😉

hmm X is a Scientist GS he knows what a multiverse is.

Your definition is kind of right and kind of wrong.

trust me I don't need to wiki this🙂

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Since I haven't read the thread since page 2, I'm just going to say old and possibly uninformed: Where was Phoenix when Thanos was raping existance?

Nowhere to be seen. Yet entities who she has been shown to exceed in power and/or purpose were present. So its absence doesnt indicate a lack of power but suggests that it wasnt her line of work. Thanos wiped out a reality with the heart of the infinite, the M'kraan is a multiversal reset switch where was LT? Surely he would have been left without a job. See my point? That doesnt indicate a lack of power for LT because he's been involved in other creation threatening events. Same for Phoenix. It just depends on the type of threat and whether its within their job description to tackle it.

pg 118 - 128 of Barrows origin of the Universe deals with the baby universe theory which is what your talking about. Its not exactly a true multiverse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A scientific term like multiverse has a definition. In fact it has many definitions but most of them talk of their being a core universe from which others diverge from after the big bang.

Roma and Merlyn in Excalibur have many a time referred to 616 as the main reality, the core reality of the multiverse. Given the definition of the word that means that 616 is the original reality.

Long time Excalibur readers will know this.

Alternatively you could google multiverse and then come to your own conclusions as opposed to not knowing the definition of multiverse and making up your mind from an incomplete picture.

The choice is yours. 😉

there is no CORE universe in a multiverse, just so every1 knows, there are an infite number uf universes joined to each other, each having their seperate big bangs and physical laws.