Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well actually the the strands that held this multiversal effect had come apart at the seams so Jean had to knit them back together again and re-energise the strands. So while i enjoyed your analogy its really not the appropriate. Its more like a snapped cable causing a suspension bridge to fall apart and you grabbing both ends, pulling the bridge together and tying the cable up.
Again, it's part of her job to do that. Impressive would be if Phoenix, who is so mighty that she created everything, would simply fix all realities. If she were as mighty as you've portrayed her, she wouldn't need the Crystal, would she?
No Wandas more like a gossip on the bus chatting away loudly about her rich friends who are going away for the weekend leaving the mansion unattended. As a result of her actions a lowlife on the bus turns burglar and breaks into the mansion. See the difference?
Yeah. Your analogy doesn't make sense and mine does.
You're still talking as if the chaos wave is Wandas power. It isnt. Its a result of Wandas tamperings so her causing chaos waves isnt impressive in terms of power. Its impressive in terms of the amount of mayhem and destruction her actions have resulted in but the fact that she set off a chain reaction makes it less impressive than a number of Phoenixes feats. Yes she could consciously disrupt a dimensional barrier to cause a chaos wave but then so could any decent reality warper by the looks of things. Its impressive but the fact that Roma says the reality warp is global in size suggests shes no more powerful than a cube being and therefore as aforementioned a number of cosmics could do the same thing.
If you think about the number of reality warpers we've had and the number of times we've changed reality and how there's never been a chaos wave that threatened all creation before, it would HAVE to be something specific to Wanda's power. It's NOT something any reality warper can do, it's something only Wanda can do because she's done it. And like I said in my last post, she could easily blow open the whole operation if she wanted to. All the chaos was just from a little accidental tear. A tear created by Wanda. The tear created a chaos wave, which is the same as the "draft" that Japf had described. If Wanda blew the whole thing open, there wouldn't be a "chaos wave", it would be THE END.
How so? Your level of understanding wildly fluctuates from thread to thread my friend. 😉
Normally because I choose to humor your senseless ramblings. lol.
The crystal is a multiversal reset switch at the centre of creation. The results of Wandas actions can easily be accomplished by any old lowlife who fractures the crystal. Hence the need for a guardian. (Jahf) Wanda instead of taking the crystal route initiated the collapse of the multiversal elsewhere. As its not her own power directly collapsing the multiverse shes hardly greater than it. Thats strange logic Demi.
A lot of good jahf did in stopping Wanda, who, as I said before, tore through creation with her own power. The side effect was a chaos wave, but that's only because her machinations left a little tear. If she wanted to unmake everything, she wouldn't just put a little tear. She'd rip it all open, and it would cause the instant end of the omniverse. Fact
Also considering Phoenix telekinetically reformed the 616 reality in issue 154 of New X-men and the fact that she makes creation cyclically i beg to differ my friend.
Only 616? That Phoenix, so small scale....
The chaos wave wandas tamperings set off must have altered reality in its wake then as the scan below clearly states the alteration was global in scale:
Dude, your last batch of scans nearly crashed my computer.
Anyway, Wanda limited her specific changes to the people affecting 616 Earth by giving them what they wanted. That's what Roma is referring to. But the effects went through all realities itself. And, as I already said, it affected beings such as the Kree, Shi'ar and Galactus.
The central point is clear - if she was able to tear a hole in the fabric of creation, there's nothing she can't do if she so chose. Nobody else has done this without the M'Kraan Crystal, which you yourself has said is beyond the Infinity Gauntlet and HOTU.
Although the explanation for the alien races could be that factions were in the vicinity and therefore caught up in the reality warp. Either way Wanda outrightly altered reality on a global scale but her tamperings ruptured reality causing a chaos wave which itself not only disrupted reality in its wake but also began to collapse it.
But if you look at the graphics of the reality wave, realities were destroyed and shifted all over the place. Multiple versions of Rogue and others were seen flying through space and time.
And I doubt Ronan, the Kree, Galactus and the Inhumans (moon-based) all just so happened to be on the planet at the time it hit. C'mon, now. It appears that Wanda changed reality not just of 616 Earth but of people related to 616 Earth, too. Like the Surfer, Galactus, the Shi'ar and anyone else who is somehow related to the Earth. So in one sense it's localized, but at the same time it's clear that it's effects stretch beyond that with Wanda having the option of going beyond even that. That's how she hit people who weren't even on Earth. She did specifically what she wanted, but to say that's the extent when she's tearing through creation is silly.
Considering my baby cannot die id love to hear your explanation on how this could happen.
Well, she would be there, and then White Hot Room would be destroyed, then Phoenix wouldn't be there. There you go.
Wanda is at the end of the day is merely setting off a chain reaction. Its not her own power, you're making it sound like it is. Even Legion has caused reality to disrupt like this by merely tampering with the crystal. Id understand your point if the chaos wave was inherent to Wanda but it isnt. Shes merely disrupted a dimensional barrier. So whats to stop any other cosmic from doing that? Changes nothing. As stated the alteration took place on a global scale and its botched execution resulted in chaos waves.
I addressed all these questions before, but to summarize - The chaos wave was the result of the small tear in reality that Wanda accidentally caused. That little wave went through and started mucking with everything. It was Wanda's power that created the tear. Wanda wouldn't need a chaos wave, she'd just rip the whole thing apart and start again. It's like a raging waterfall having a faucet. It channeled its power through the faucet and the faucet is filling the bathtub up. You think that waterfall NEEDS the faucet to fill stuff up with water?
