It's true what you say, alot of times (not all the time though as SpellJammer has seen some unprovoked abuse over drunktard men and the like..) women provoke the attacks. They get what they deserve.
However all this gives the police, the courts, and society much un-needed hassles. When you feel abused, wether emotionaly or physqiuely, you need to reconsider your relationship. There's no harm in saying "it's over"..
On that note, SpellJammer expects one of these days for his uncle to beat the living snot out of his aunt. And she'd deserve it. She's a pompus, annerexic crackwhore who drinks and thinks painkillers are tic tacs.. She'd deserve a good beating, and it might set her straight..
However, SpellJammer would prefer his uncle just say "it's over, and I'm taking the kids" because she's a druggy and a loser. He's a goodman, but his attatchment and his emotions will be his downfall unless he learns how to use them for the better instead of the worse..
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh lord, i love when someone makes a thread about something they have no clue about, in hope to sell us some contravertial philosophy.a) Domestic violence is a problem, a huge one in USA especially as every 10 seconds a woman in the united states is abused.
b) Domestic violence is the most under-reported crime in the history of crimes. Closely followed by hate crimes such as homophobic violence.
(im just waiting for someone to start a thread ''Violence against gays...Overrated?!?!?!''😉
c) If you talk solely on the husband abusing women, its not simply domestic violence, it is ''Interpartnership agression''. Domestic violence coveres abuse against children and elderly.
Perhaps thats overrated too?d) Interpartenrship agression is more than just ''husband hitting a wife'' it is also economic, sexual, verbal and psychological violence.
Being an American and supposedly trying to make a debate on Domestic Violence, im sure you are familiar with the Duluthe model, no? I didnt think so.
This is ONE of the Duluth Models on violence and abuse in the domestic souroundings which are other or leading to ''bloody mess''
Moving on..here's some accurate statistics about spousal abuse. You can get sources for these statistics at the following site.
Men were the victims of DV 38-50% of the time according to major studies in Canada, the U.S. and Great Britain.A)
The National Institute of Justice and the Center for Disease Control estimates that 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are the victims of domestic violence each year.There are 31,536,000 seconds in a year. What does this mean? Every 21 seconds, somewhere in America a woman is battered. And every 38 seconds, somewhere in America a man is battered.
B)
Only 1.85% of women's emergency room visits are due to domestic violence—all forms of violence account for only 5% of ER visits. 647,396 women visit emergency rooms (5%) for any assault. 923,336 (7%) go because of animal bites/stings, 2,386,488 (18%) for transportation accidents, 1,461,168 (11%) for overexertion.
C)
According to the NIJ/CDC National Violence Against Women survey, 10.8% of the women but only 4.1% of the men used a knife on the victim. 21.6% of the male victims were threatened with a knife, while only 12.7% of the women were so threatened. 43.2% of the male victims were hit with a hard object capable of causing serious injury, while this was true of only 22.6% of the female victims. When all serious forms of domestic assault were added together, as many assaulted men as women were seriously assaulted.
D)
A survey 0f 1,000 women, perhaps the largest survey of its kind, found that 20% had initiated violence. The most common reasons for women initiating domestic violence were: "My partner wasn't sensitive to my needs," (46%), "I wished to gain my partner's attention," (44%) and "My partner was not listening to me" (43%). "My partner was being verbally abusive to me" (38%) was a distant fourth.
Well if there's an isolated fight between a guy and a girl and the guy fights back that's one thing.. if the girl doesn't want to get hit then she really shouldn't be participating in a fight. Many guys wouldn't hesitate to hit another guy who's considerably weaker than them if he started the fight.. so really that's not an excuse for the girl to be able to start a fight and the guy to be obligated to walk away. That almost seems degrading to women.. as if it's implying that somehow guys should have more self-control than girls should.
However when it comes to domestic abuse as in one spouse abusing the other continually.. it's pretty rare for it to be the woman abusing the man. But this is wrong no matter what. I don't care how much shit she talks.. that's sometimes part of being in a relationship. If your spouse is so insulting that you can't take it any more then you need to take a second look at your relationship and consider if it's really worth it..
Originally posted by Spelljammer
It's true what you say, alot of times (not all the time though as SpellJammer has seen some unprovoked abuse over drunktard men and the like..) women provoke the attacks. They get what they deserve.
Comments like this are usually made by people who have recieved a massive blow to the head (or suffer from some other metal challenge) and have problems putting together any rational thought. Are you letting your monkey sit at your keyboard again?
Originally posted by WindDancer
That is different AC. That is called "Self Defense" which is perfectly fine. To strike a female over a stupid argument is totally wrong. Get it?
Mah hero droolio
*ahem*
I said im not posting in this thread so i'll leave. WD is here to keep the peace and bashing in order.
Milla, rather than waving the pom poms and dodging my question that I've now asked twice. Try replying to me if you're going to reply REGARDING me. Goodie.
Originally posted by WindDancer
That is different AC. That is called "Self Defense" which is perfectly fine. To strike a female over a stupid argument is totally wrong. Get it?
WD, where did I dispute that striking a female over an arguement (stupid) was condoned? Once? Twice? Never?
-AC
Well, it really seems to me, that if you have suffered from years of verbal abuse, if someone has downgraded you with her/his words and never supported you in anything, you should leave.
A woman hits you, throws you with something, does anything else that makes you feel pain..it's your right to hit them back. Same with if a man does something to you.
If they want equal rights between men and women (It's not just women that want it...I want that too)...it better has to apply on everything.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Great, now AC is pulling his bullshit on the mods. This is going to get ugly.. 🙄
I'm not though am I you mug? I asked Milla a civilised question regarding the thread, twice, and she's dodged it. Yet it's somehow appropriate to cheer people who reply to me.
If you want me banned, try harder or get off my genitals.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWD, where did I dispute that striking a female over an arguement (stupid) was condoned? Once? Twice? Never?
-AC
You brought the example of a woman coming at me with a weapon. Thus I replied with the "self defense" comment. I have every right to defend myself from an attack. And so does any victim of Domestic Violence. If a man is hitting a woman she has every right to grab a weapon and defend herself. That's my point.
I think lil has pretty much has establish her arguement. Maybe you should just open up more to what she's saying.
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[Note] And people please PLEASE! Can we have a discussion without the personal attacks?
Personally, I do find it uncomfortable when people say "I have been brought up to respect women so I never hit them."
What, so you don't respect men? What happened to respecting PEOPLE in general?
I would far rather say "I don't hit anyone" rather than try and make "I don't hit women" sound like a good thing, because that is actually saying "I DO hit men and I have no problem with that" which is hardly laudable.
It irritates me that a weak guy who can't defend himself is somehow a fair target, but a fit, strong woman (who could, for example, easily beat the shit out of me) is someone you are not meant to hit back against.
Women are more likely to be weak, this is true, but in that case it's still the weakness that counts, not some odd idea that women can't be hit (which ultimately comes down to thinking women are inferior). As I say, best to say you don't use violence at all.
But my instincts tell me Lil is right, really. I am pretty sure that in anyone's epxeirnece, Men are far quicker to turn to violence.