Originally posted by Khellendros
Thor has resisted the heat of our sun, Firelord's maximum output is that of a rather small star. Also, Thor has taken a hit from Firelord's flame before with no injury sustained.
Thor once surrendered to Firelord as neither could win 🙂 and he wanted Firelord to think about what was happening 🙂
Originally posted by RAGE17
spider-man took out fire-lord, that means that spider-man is stronger then Thor....who lost to him....and since Thor can stalemate galactus....that means that spierman can do the same...and since galactus=Phoenix, that means spider-man is on par with Phoenix possibly even stronger
Excellent logic C17 as usual I think your right 🙂 but then you usually are, in fact I can't remember you being wrong
Rage... that was cool :-), ... but to be serious... i am sure everybody knows that the Spiderman beating over Firelord was .... wholy shit... wasnt it ?
but... what would be interesting.... how strong is Thor WITHOUT Mjolnir.... i have seen fights without Mjolnir against Thor.... i was impressed of the stamina of Thor.. even without his hammer
but he hadnt really a chance against a brutal Hulk
but you would like Thor or you would NOT like thor........ the fact is , he is a hero WITH his weapon.... in this case.. MJOLNIR... and this combination makes he one of the most dominant Marvel Individuals ever...
by the way: the Thor (without Mjolnir)-Hulk fight.. has shown.... that even Thor without his hammer... can survive brutal Hulk attacks and can hand out awesome fists that even can bring a well experienced fighter (like Hulk) in troubles.... but like i said before: Thor "should" always lost without hammer .. against a (green) Savage or Mindless Hulk....
<<Thor has resisted the heat of our sun, Firelord's maximum output is that of a rather small star. Also, Thor has taken a hit from Firelord's flame before with no injury sustained.>>
not that atum scene again? he was not really IN the sun. that was a sphere of power created by atum. thor has never (unless very recently and not counting king thor) been shown to be able to fly through suns.
without his hammer, firelord takes this for a number of reasons, not least which is he can speedblitz and fly.
<<Thor cannot take sustained Sun/Star level heat>>
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"i have seen fights without Mjolnir against Thor.... i was impressed of the stamina of Thor.. even without his hammer
but he hadnt really a chance against a brutal Hulk"
He always fought the likes of Savage Hulk, sometimes stalemating, others having more problems but not being defeated.
Thats a far cry from " hadnt rally got a chance ".
And considering the Atum scene, yes it was stated there was a "sphere" inside the sun. Leo was right about it.
Thor can take Firelord/heralds attacks tho. The only problem of not having the hammer its that he cant fly. Wich means Firelord has his powers including better movement powerset.
(Thor still has godly weather control without the hammer, including the Godblast attack).
Its a difficult match to pick a winner from. Probably a slight edge to the Herald if he does not decide to make it strickly h2h.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Firelord's up in the higher ranks of the heralds... He's just below SS. 6/10 Firelord. Godforce isn't a guaranteed win...