All of which are well and good, but none of them show an actual battle between the two except the first one, and all he did was freeze Mjolnir (with no showing of what happens next). I don't see where Surfer had an advantage in their battles. In the first one, Surfer was amped and admitted that he's less powerful than Thor, who still took Surfer's best attacks and broke Surfer's Loki-enhanced forcefield. In the second one, Thor was not holding back and beat the crap out of Surfer - knocking him out three times. In the scan you posted, Surfer fired a shot at a group who wasn't expecting that to happen. Thor wasn't in any position to defend himself at all - that proves nothing. If Thor fired a godblast a Surfer while he wasn't looking, it wouldn't go too well for him, either. All of their confrontations have painted Thor in a better light, IMO.
I just don't recall any situations in which Surfer got the best of Thor.
Originally posted by demigawd
All of which are well and good, but none of them show an actual battle between the two except the first one, and all he did was freeze Mjolnir (with no showing of what happens next). I don't see where Surfer had an advantage in their battles. In the first one, Surfer was amped and admitted that he's less powerful than Thor, who still took Surfer's best attacks and broke Surfer's Loki-enhanced forcefield. In the second one, Thor was not holding back and beat the crap out of Surfer - knocking him out three times. In the scan you posted, Surfer fired a shot at a group who wasn't expecting that to happen. Thor wasn't in any position to defend himself at all - that proves nothing. If Thor fired a godblast a Surfer while he wasn't looking, it wouldn't go too well for him, either. All of their confrontations have painted Thor in a better light, IMO.I just don't recall any situations in which Surfer got the best of Thor.
that's what happend.
SS doesn't say THor is stonger , he says his hammer is stonger which is true doesn't mean thor is stonger.
in the second one ? which one?
SS uses his speed , thor has problem with mach speed.
SS can go well beyond lightspeed , and reacted in nano second.
end of story
Originally posted by kgkg
with no showing what happens hmm what happens if thor doesn't have his hammer , he reverts back to his human form.that's what happend.
SS doesn't say THor is stonger , he says his hammer is stonger which is true doesn't mean thor is stonger.
in the second one ? which one?
SS uses his speed , thor has problem with mach speed.
SS can go well beyond lightspeed , and reacted in nano second.
end of story
Surfer's speed hasn't helped much in any of their previous battles - I dont' see it helping in any future battles, either.
Thor has control over the elements even without his hammer, as revealed recently in the Thor mini. Besides, Surfer had Thor's hammer trapped in his field before and Thor just smashed right through it. And this was when Surfer was amped.
Thor wields Mjolnir - they're a single package. If Surfer says the power of Mjolnir exceeds his own, then Thor, who wields it, possesses power that exceeds Surfer's. No getting around that.
While I think that Surfer is more powerful than Thor, Thor's warrior mentality always gives him the win.
Originally posted by demigawd
Surfer's speed hasn't helped much in any of their previous battles - I dont' see it helping in any future battles, either.Thor has control over the elements even without his hammer, as revealed recently in the Thor mini. Besides, Surfer had Thor's hammer trapped in his field before and Thor just smashed right through it. And this was when Surfer was amped.
Thor wields Mjolnir - they're a single package. If Surfer says the power of Mjolnir exceeds his own, then Thor, who wields it, possesses power that exceeds Surfer's. No getting around that.
While I think that Surfer is more powerful than Thor, Thor's warrior mentality always gives him the win.
SS didn't use speed in one of there battle doesn't mean he can't.
He has reacted faster than light and hit people at that speed. He does the same thing to thor.
again SS getting knocked out? where did you get that from?
More powerful, yes. But Thor's a better fighter, and that's why he'd win a confrontation 6/10. You'd have to have a brawler's mentality to hang with Thor. That's why Surfer can't do it.
Yes, I was referring to warrior's madness Thor. But that's just pissed off, no holding back Thor. He's not 10x stronger - just a lot more ruthless.
And the fact still remains that Surfer's speed has never given him a win over Thor. Call it Superman syndrome...
Originally posted by demigawd
More powerful, yes. But Thor's a better fighter, and that's why he'd win a confrontation 6/10. You'd have to have a brawler's mentality to hang with Thor. That's why Surfer can't do it.Yes, I was referring to warrior's madness Thor. But that's just pissed off, no holding back Thor. He's not 10x stronger - just a lot more ruthless.
And the fact still remains that Surfer's speed has never given him a win over Thor. Call it Superman syndrome...
That’s insane thor.
Get your facts strait
If he gets pissed of he doesn’t get that strong he was mentally ill
Normal is nowhere near that level.
Heck BRB knocked Thor out.
<<Surfer is slightly more powerful. But, more powerful nonetheless.>>
what?? the hell he is. he may have more versatility in terms of power -- ie he can DO more with his power, but where the hell do you get he is more powerful. ss has admitted that mjollnir > than power cosmic.
if your're talking about a fight of thor WITHOUT his hammer, then yeah, ss is more powerful, but with mjollnir thor > ss.
kg and i have gone back and forth on this for like, ever. we have both shown over and again the reasons we think the other is more powerful.
it has ALWAYS boiled down to me that mjollnir is the difference -- and the god force. thor powers, while less versatile, are GREATER. godforce > than any power ss uses, mjollnir > (by ss admission) than ss. thor's greatest weapon SPECIALIZES in absorbing and defending energy attacks. i've scanned loads of images showing thor absorbing everything to a vampire's life force, to the powers of the celestials. unfortunately, kg and i will NEVER see eye to eye on this.
hey demi, maybe you'll have better luck convincing him.