But, Thor beating Surfer is pretty much CIS, unless Surfer tried speed blitzing the entire time. If he did speed blitz, and Thor was able to keep up with him, then my mind would change.
But, just because he beats him in a comic, when Surfer is in character, being a pacifist, not acting first. It really doesn't mean he'd win in these fights, where Surfer is bloodlusted and went for the kill the first strike.
Originally posted by demigawd
I think you guys all harp way too much on lightspeed as being the answer to all battles. Using that logic, SS can easily beat Galactus by blasting at full power millions of times per second. Why not, right?Except I don't see enough lightspeed combat feats for Surfer. Unlike someone like Superman, or even Gladiator, who are both comfortable with fighting at that speed, I've never gotten that impression from Surfer. That's why I keep seeing the same scan over and over again - and none of them involve him doing superman-esque feats of combat speed. Post scans of SS fighting someone at all angles at once like we see Superman doing. Post scans of SS kicking someone away, then grabbing an iron beam and tying around his opponent while the opponent is still in the air from the previous kick, like we see Gladiator doing. THEN, maybe I'll buy into some victories for Surfer. But his superspeed combat talents are severely overrated, and his offensive/defensive capabilities are simply not on par with Thor's.
And again, Warrior's Madness Thor is just a Thor completely unleashed. An unleashed Thor (who could go into Warrior's Madness whenever he wants, by the way) IS far beyond BRB, SS and Drax. It just shows how much Thor holds back all the time. If you can give SS superspeed combat powers that he never uses, then I can unleash Thor at his fullest.
Not that it's even necessary - the offensive capabilities of Mjolnir are just so far beyond Surfer that it's hardly a comparison.
I'm not even going to address the idea that Mjolnir should be weighed separately from Thor. Let's separate Thor from Mjolnir and Surfer from the power cosmic and see how that goes. What's that you say? No? Didn't think so.
Thor 7/10.
It only works on guy who has struggled against speed.
Thor has struggle with speed many times
Galactus is beyond speed , he can easily warp space itself
Originally posted by demigawd
What are Surfer's *combat* speed feats? Like the ones we see all the time for Superman and even Gladiator. And I still think Thor has the ability, being a God, to react to lightspeed just fine. Hell, Magneto reacted to lightspeed attacks before.Godblast. Done.
when has Mag put someone in his blackhole , or beat any enimes using mindcontrol? cept weak ones
never
badlogic.
SS has used his speed in battle many time.
Morg , deathurge , etc
Originally posted by long pig
But, Thor beating Surfer is pretty much CIS, unless Surfer tried speed blitzing the entire time. If he did speed blitz, and Thor was able to keep up with him, then my mind would change.But, just because he beats him in a comic, when Surfer is in character, being a pacifist, not acting first. It really doesn't mean he'd win in these fights, where Surfer is bloodlusted and went for the kill the first strike.
SS has defeated THor , without using much speed.
this is not MadThor
simple blast nearly killed him , now replace that with world destoying attack , at lightspeed = dead Thor.
as for Leo -------- Thor never absorb SS , he absorbed his cosmic blast , how many he is going to absorb when SS is moving at light speed? None
the sad thing is people has to bring mad thor lol
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Originally posted by demigawd
What are Surfer's *combat* speed feats? Like the ones we see all the time for Superman and even Gladiator. And I still think Thor has the ability, being a God, to react to lightspeed just fine. Hell, Magneto reacted to lightspeed attacks before.Godblast. Done.
Morg , Durok etc etc
simple blast K.O