Originally posted by demigawd
Well, if Thor >= Silver Surfer
and Silver Surfer > Firelordthen doesn't it stand to reason that Thor > Firelord?
Heh. I'm reading Thor 306. Firelord comes ot pick a fight with Thor, and Thor is pretty confused, just acting defensively, just tyring to hold Firelord off. Finally, when he gets sick of it, he knocks him out for a bit under the ocean, then battles on land. He's still talking while Firelord hits him square in the face, and knocks Firelord off hsi feet repeatedly. Oh, and he tells Firelord he can't beat him to give Firelord the chance at vengeance for killing Air-Walker and the chance to show mercy. Not once was thor shown to be anything but inconvenienced by an enraged Firelord.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Uh no! Destroyer, Silver Surfer, Morg, Stardust, Terrax, Nova,Firelord, Airwaliker. Godforce blast hurt Galactus badly what the hell you think it will do too Firelord who is not that durable.
kgkg you know that issue is pretty crap, Thor took blasts from the likes of Thanos, Firelord himself, and other cosmic guys and is still in charge.
Thor's durability is questioned cause writers sometimes go nuts and portrait him as someone with durability at Thing level if not less, see when he was knocked out from a f.u.ck.ing SNIPER RIFLE.
His resistance to heat is no question, when the Planet Ego raised his internal heat temperature to the EXTREME, it had no affect on Thor-See Thor-#133.Thor withstood the Thermal Man's HEAT blast that could melt Tanks instantly, also, Thor was insensitive to the Lava Man's attack- see Avengers #5.In addition, Thor withstood a direct hit by Firelord’s Cosmic Flame with absolutely no dire visible effect on him- Thor-#306
Back in topic, without his hammer, Thor still has his total control over weather elements, his magical lightning and his godforce.
When Thor let the GodForce going out it's not pretty to see man, Firelord will be down, or sufficiently shocked and injured to be knocked unconscious old school way with some fists.
Celestials body, a weakned but still was Galactus felt this attack and an herald is under those beings in durability ranking.
Plus:
20) COSMIC ENERGY: Thor's hammer can produce Cosmic Energy (Avengers#5).
Thor is herald level.
Originally posted by K3VIL
kgkg you know that issue is pretty crap, Thor took blasts from the likes of Thanos, Firelord himself, and other cosmic guys and is still in charge.
Thor's durability is questioned cause writers sometimes go nuts and portrait him as someone with durability at Thing level if not less, see when he was knocked out from a f.u.ck.ing SNIPER RIFLE.
His resistance to heat is no question, when the Planet Ego raised his internal heat temperature to the EXTREME, it had no affect on Thor-See Thor-#133.Thor withstood the Thermal Man's HEAT blast that could melt Tanks instantly, also, Thor was insensitive to the Lava Man's attack- see Avengers #5.In addition, Thor withstood a direct hit by Firelord’s Cosmic Flame with absolutely no dire visible effect on him- Thor-#306
Back in topic, without his hammer, Thor still has his total control over weather elements, his magical lightning and his godforce.
When Thor let the GodForce going out it's not pretty to see man, Firelord will be down, or sufficiently shocked and injured to be knocked unconscious old school way with some fists.
Celestials body, a weakned but still was Galactus felt this attack and an herald is under those beings in durability ranking.
Plus:
20) COSMIC ENERGY: Thor's hammer can produce Cosmic Energy (Avengers#5).
Thor is herald level.
People seem to think Thor has defeated SS.
SS is way beyond Firelord .
Firelord , Terrax and Air-walker couldn't take Morg . SS out Morg out.
Thor doesn't have his hammer , and Hulk nearly beat him to death.
If thor doesn't oull one of those God Force he goes down.
Originally posted by demigawd
When did we start counting What Ifs as feats?I can't give you exacts, but every time Surfer and Thor fight, Surfer always gets the worst of it.
the only Thor that owned SS was Mad THor. and SS was holding back.
Mad Thor (with Gem) kicked his ass.
Originally posted by demigawd
When did we start counting What Ifs as feats?I can't give you exacts, but every time Surfer and Thor fight, Surfer always gets the worst of it.
That scan is not from What if.
it's a canon source.
the one i was talking about is what if Avenger battled Galactus , SS defeated thor there.
and in Avenger vs Defender --- SS simple blast nearly killed him( so he says)
Thor and SS had few crossover. SS is always the better , stonger more powerful guy. When they are together.
no what issue did Thor seem to be able to hold his own.
the only time was in vol 1 when loki powers SS , but in that issue SS knocks thor out.
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and ever other source (time they are together) SS is always the bigger man.
*grumble*
I'll dig around at my references and see what I can find. I don't remember any specific battles, but it's always been my sentiment in issues I read that Thor usually got the better of him. I may be completely wrong, but I'll check and let you know.
Either way, it seems we're all agreed that Thor beats Firelord.
Originally posted by demigawdI have read ever thor/ SS colabo
*grumble*I'll dig around at my references and see what I can find. I don't remember any specific battles, but it's always been my sentiment in issues I read that Thor usually got the better of him. I may be completely wrong, but I'll check and let you know.
Either way, it seems we're all agreed that Thor beats Firelord.
And I have read almost of SS comics
Never does thor own him, or SS is seem weaker.
Fact is now SS is considered the strongest hero ever.
you do remember the Enslaver don't you
😉
Originally posted by kgkg
I have read ever thor/ SS colaboAnd I have read almost of SS comics
Never does thor own him, or SS is seem weaker.
Fact is now SS is considered the strongest hero ever.
you do remember the Enslaver don't you
😉
Well, your recollection of SS never seeming weaker is about as reliable as my recollection of Magneto getting the better of the Stranger. 😉
And just because YOU consider SS the strongest hero ever doesn't mean SS is considered the strongest hero ever, lol. Sentry and Genis-Vell might have something to say about that. 😄
But...I'll let this one go until I refresh my memory on their fights. If you have any scans, I'd thank you for it.
Originally posted by demigawd
Well, your recollection of SS never seeming weaker is about as reliable as my recollection of Magneto getting the better of the Stranger. 😉And just because YOU consider SS the strongest hero ever doesn't mean SS is considered the strongest hero ever, lol. Sentry and Genis-Vell might have something to say about that. 😄
I never said SS was the strongest comic heroes have said that many times.
And did u find the issue? 🙄
Sentry , Genis still rookies they might be stronger but we will have to see.
And if SS is using his speed heck no one is touching him.
Can you recall any hero that has defeated the SS in one on one SS actually fighting?
Originally posted by demigawd
ok, in this scan, Surfer flat out admits that the power of Mjolnir is greater than his. (this is the issue where Surfer is being amped by Loki, and that's why he's winning).I'm researching more.
Well that was long time ago shit has changed. V.1
And SS wins that
That’s the best u will find
rest is always SS > Thor