On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Started by Storm274 pages

Gluttony is a sin, according to a 1998 Purdue University study, obesity is associated with higher levels of religious participation. Ironic.

Originally posted by Storm
Gluttony is a sin, according to a 1998 Purdue University study, obesity is associated with higher levels of religious participation. Ironic.
It sure is! Ever been to a church pot luck! 😱

Mostly because it wasn't made to be. God made a man and a woman to be together and it proves it because a man and a man cant have children. Only a man and a woman can share that. So the issue is, is it right to go against a perfectly beautiful plan that God made us to be ruined? And admit it, you weren't born gay. Therefore, you probably did choose to put your mind on guys. The more you think about them, it may be helping the situation. Think of how wonderful girls are for a change, it may help. You are born automattically attracted to them, so think positive, and maybe your friends might not reject you. And if they really are religious and believe in a forgiving God, they would try to help you by praying for you, instead of critizing you. Just think that God hung out wih the worst people, he dined at a tax collector's house who had no heart for the poor and stole. He loves everyone, but not your sin. So try to ask him to change that for you, and it will help in time. Remeber that God may not answer you in the way you want or the time you want, but it will be a process that will help you get over this issue. I'll pray for you.
-Resa <3

The reason is mostly because, when God had a plan, the plan was to make a man and a woman ot be together, and so the question is, why go against such a perfect and beautiful plan and for what? You may not think about this, but maybe your just thinking too much about boys, and its getting to your head. Try thinking about girls and how attractive they are. But it wont ever be that easy. You need to pray. And if your friends are so religious as you say, they should know that God is forgiving, and he loves you but not sin. So they would be trying to help you as God does, and praying for you instead of rejecting you and critisizing. Tell them that God came to help, nto to reject. If Jesus didn't come to save sinners, who would he save? He wouldn't be able to do anything, because everyone is born in sin. So give them a kick and tell them to wake up for me.They should knwo better. Keep praying for God to help you. He can do more things than you think.
-Resa <3

Please, please stop trying to use Sodom as proof for the bible's position against homosexuality.
The men of Sodom tried to rape angels that Lot had welcomed in his home. They were (1) showing a distinct lack of hospitality, whereas Lot had been a stand up guy and treated the angels well: there's an obvious contrast being set up here (try to imagine the fact that these people live in a freaking desert. It's a very harsh environment. If you don't show strangers hospitality in many cases they could die... not that I imagine the men of Sodom were going to let the angels on their way once they raped them: heck, the story doesn't make it entirely clear that rape is their goal anyway). They were (2) trying to RAPE people.. if they had tried to rape women, you wouldn't see it as a condemnation of heterosexual sex. They were (3) trying to rape ANGELS... angels aren't men. They aren't human. They are angels, and probably don't have any particular sex. It's like having sex with a dog: it doesn't really matter whether that dog is male or female, does it?
In any case, the story is in no way comparable to two human beings (not angels) having consensual sex (not rape).

Try using Leviticus: at least that way you don't look like an idiot.

Actually they were destroyed because they were homosexual, in the Bible it says that Lot, and God made a deal that God would save save sodom, and Gamorrah if there were just 5 just people in the City well there wasn't, and the people didn't want to change there ways so they were destroyed and I know they entire City wasn't trying to rape the angels it was just a few men. Even if what you said is true why did God destrot Gamorrah then.

Originally posted by Resa<3
Mostly because it wasn't made to be. God made a man and a woman to be together and it proves it because a man and a man cant have children. Only a man and a woman can share that. So the issue is, is it right to go against a perfectly beautiful plan that God made us to be ruined? And admit it, you weren't born gay. Therefore, you probably did choose to put your mind on guys. The more you think about them, it may be helping the situation. Think of how wonderful girls are for a change, it may help. You are born automattically attracted to them, so think positive, and maybe your friends might not reject you.

Once again... you people seem to leave out the factor that there may not be a God. I am Agnostic, so I like to keep an open mind. It's true that gay people can be turned straight, but there are some cases, where no matter how hard they try and go to these church therapies, it seems they cannot change their sexual orientation.
Then again, there are people who are not Christian, who believe in a religion that doesn't care about someone's preferences. Are they going to hell?
Oh, and yes. You can be born gay. Although many cases just depend on situation, there are people who have been like that in the womb due to a hormonal imbalance. You'd probably call it a "defect." So, only a man and woman can make a baby... Homosexuality keeps the population from overflowing. And people all over the world have been practicing homosexuality since the beginning of time and that hasn't seemed to "ruin" anything, now has it?

Originally posted by Resa<3
And admit it, you weren't born gay. Therefore, you probably did choose to put your mind on guys. The more you think about them, it may be helping the situation. Think of how wonderful girls are for a change, it may help. You are born automattically attracted to them, so think positive, and maybe your friends might not reject you. And if they really are religious and believe in a forgiving God, they would try to help you by praying for you, instead of critizing you. Just think that God hung out wih the worst people, he dined at a tax collector's house who had no heart for the poor and stole. He loves everyone, but not your sin. So try to ask him to change that for you, and it will help in time. Remeber that God may not answer you in the way you want or the time you want, but it will be a process that will help you get over this issue. I'll pray for you.
-Resa <3

Homosexuals are born, not made. There is no conclusive data that shows ex-gay reparative therapy is possible.

I did read about the chemistry of the brain differers, though it was not concluded that the chemistry change was do to a change or was attributed to a change.

Your not borm gay it's a choice just like evrey other sin. God wouldn't bring a pearson in this world a sinner he lets them have there choices.

According to the bible god did bring into the world as a sinner.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Your not borm gay it's a choice just like evrey other sin. God wouldn't bring a pearson in this world a sinner he lets them have there choices.

Ah, so you're saying people wake up one day and say to themselves, "I think I'm gonna nail someone of the same sex!" Uh huh... and the people who tear themselves up over it are just trying to get attention... psh...

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Your not borm gay it's a choice just like evrey other sin. God wouldn't bring a pearson in this world a sinner he lets them have there choices.

And that' s the catch. Homosexuality needs to be a behavior in order to fit in with the principle that it is a sin which can be overcome. Under the traditional Christian conception of morality, sins are behaviors which we all choose and which, at least in theory, we can choose not to engage in. If homosexuality were defined as an orientation, it would be very difficult to maintain the idea that it is a sin.

Re: why do some religions oppose homosexuality?

Originally posted by leana marie
seriously though? I have every right to be gay but my friends wont even talk to me anymore because its against their religion to be gay. why is it that some religions think its wrong? if someone loves someone shouldnt it not matter what their sexual orientation is?

im only asking this of people whos religions oppose it, but feel free anyone to comment.

Well the religion doesn't appose the homosexual, just the homosexual act. Homosexual acts—Although it remains to be determined if homosexuality is a genetic, social or personal stigma, homosexual acts are condemned by God and can NEVER be approved by the Church (1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Genesis 19:1-29, Romans 1:24-27 and CCC 2357). If homosexuals are born with the condition, then they are called to live a life of Christian purity and chastity for the greater love of Christ. Such people can experience a life of trial, which all others must treat with compassion and sensitivity.

See, we love the sinner, we just hate the sin. (Take it metaphorically)

In the bible it says it is.

But, getting an opinion from the religion forum isn't really a good idea. Because, most of the people in here are religious.

And deny gays. Or are against them.

I don't have a problem with them. If you love the same sex for love and nothing else then that's fine. But, if it's for sex . . . then that's just a shame.

Originally posted by Eis
According to the vatican it is.
And anyone who believes that bullshit is an utter moron.

That is your opinion. But that doesn't make it true. People have their own opinions on issues and you have no right to call them a "moron" based on that.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It IS a sin.

But it is not wrong...

Huh? 🤨

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What about two men, a woman, six hens and a donkey?

😆

Don´t talk that out too loud, or there will be people trying to make that a sacred thing !

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Originally posted by Uberking Robert
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Do not use that kind of language on this forum!