Originally posted by debbiejo
and who did their children have sex with?
Probably each other. However that was after the Fall. It was also just after Creation, meaning that Adam and Eve were still perfect genetically and didn't have those accumulated genetic mistakes that cause two copies of "bad genes" to be inherited in close relation marriage. So it probably would not have had the same effects as it would today.
That's my reading of it, anyway. Personally, it doesn't make much difference to me - but that's just me.
Originally posted by debbiejo
So, god said incest was ok then.
No. God laid down the law through Moses hundreds of years later, when the Israelites were an organized people -- and the world was a LOT larger -- that incest was a no-no. It says "No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations" in Leviticus 18:6. To continue the human race, it happened [like with Lot's daughters, *shudder*], but God made it clear later that it's not a good thing. And like I said, it was after the Fall - humans had free will to do what they chose, not all of it good.
Originally posted by chezOk, so first god said it was ok, the god changed it's mind.....I thought god was unchangeable....The same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
No. God laid down the law through Moses hundreds of years later, when the Israelites were an organized people -- and the world was a LOT larger -- that incest was a no-no. It says "No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations" in Leviticus 18:6. To continue the human race, it happened [like with Lot's daughters, *shudder*], but God made it clear later that it's not a good thing.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Ok, so first god said it was ok, the god changed it's mind.....I thought god was unchangeable....The same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
good pooint, this adds to my reasons why I think God is more human than we think sometimes. Well, the christian God, anyways. or what ever.
Why the heck is this thread still even going on?
Yes, being gay is a sin in accordance to the Bible. There you have it! He didn't ask if being gay was wrong which would've sparked a normal discussion of homosexuality. He said "sin" which means he's referring to Christian wise and therefore the answer is yes.
Originally posted by Punker69
Why the heck is this thread still even going on?Yes, being gay is a sin in accordance to the Bible. There you have it! He didn't ask if being gay was wrong which would've sparked a normal discussion of homosexuality. He said "sin" which means he's referring to Christian wise and therefore the answer is yes.
There is dispute over biblical interpretation, and whether to uphold the biblical condemnation of homosexuality because it appears in a book, the rules of which, Christians no longer observe.
the condemnation in the new testament is irrelevant to me on principle since i'm not jewish. the condemnation in leviticus is based on a misenterpretation of scripture based on the evolution of popular hebrew slang when the torah was translated into the septuagent. But this is all irrelevant to me anyway cause i'm fairly faithless at the moment
Originally posted by StyleTime
Wow. It was a joke.Asexual would also be the wrong term. The more correct term would be intersexual. Nice try though.
Actually, I was joking too.
Technically...that would be neither asexual or intersexual. Especially considering '2' individuals were involved, it could not be either. Intersexual, if I remember from my major, involves one person displaying both gender characteristics.
Although, you could argue that Eve's creation was certainly 'asexual.' Her creation was the result of a non-sexual act that did not involve sex gametes.
Philosophically, one could argue the concept of 'masturbation' but that too is a strech since there were clearly two individuals of opposite sex and intercourse were involved.
Still, it is certainly not homosexuality as Adam is a Male and Eve is a female. Since Adam is the proverbial father of Eve, a case for incest could be made. However this would involve knowing the law of the land at the time, since incest is a defined illegal act. Yet, the term can also be applied to sexual acts going against custom as well.
But since there were no other beings on the planet at that time, given the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth, incest most certainly would not apply in this case.
Therefore sexual relations between Adam and Eve given their relationship and 'special' circumstances most likely will remain an unclassifiable situation, especially when considering elements of the divine.
(And if anyone is curious...I'm taking this insane topic too far on purpose to show just how freakin' dumb the conversation is.)
Originally posted by tlbauerle
Actually, I was joking too.Technically...that would be neither asexual or intersexual. Especially considering '2' individuals were involved, it could not be either. Intersexual, if I remember from my major, involves one person displaying both gender characteristics.
Although, you could argue that Eve's creation was certainly 'asexual.' Her creation was the result of a non-sexual act that did not involve sex gametes.
Although, we could make one.
Biblisexual?