Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Started by Alpha Centauri507 pages

Originally posted by Morridini
Go for either the Wii or the 360.

If you like Nintendo games like Mario, Metroid etc go for the Wii.
If you like great graphics and don't care so much about the old franchises, go for the 360.
If you like crap, go for the PS3.

If you have money, go for a Wii and a 360.

As if the Wii also doesn't have great graphics.

-AC

I think he just means great graphics, compared to it's competition.

Not all games have great graphics because they're on the 360 or the Wii, it's all in application.

Both have great graphics capabilities.

-AC

Yes that's what I meant.

I love the Wii, I like the graphics, however it is not as good as the graphics on the 360 and PS3. Which Nintendo often points out, it's about gameplay, not eye-candy.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As if the Wii also doesn't have great graphics.

-AC

its not capable of 720p and higher

so those with HDTVs looking for something to showcase would probably be better off with a 360

I'm personally going to aim towards getting a wii, however

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i'll check out mass effect at ign or gamespot. i'm really into rpg which is why i preffered my ps2 to my xbox. but saddly i had to sell my ps2 before ffXII came out (it was starting to make some nasty noises and i figured that i've had for more than 4 years. at least i got some cash out of it before it actually bogged down 😛 )

tekken has been a sony exclusive since tekken 1 came out on the original playstation. but seeing as the ps3 is the most expensive of the three i'd most likely pick it up once it drops in price in the next few years or so 😛

and yeah, i heard that if you have a moded 360 and try to log on to live, they have some way of dettecting it which would block you from using the service.

anyway, thanks for the tip, i'll see if there are any other good games i might like on gamespot (halo 3 comes to mind) and hopefully, if all goes well i'll have enough cash to buy a 360 and 5 games this christmas

🙂

kinda stupid to quote myself. but i'm not too sure about the 360 now. after doing more research, it would seem that the probability of the 360 breaking down is higher than i thought. its like 1 in 10 units is breaking down and thats about 10%. though i like the console and the games, i dont want to risk of buying a defective unit and a 10% chance of getting one is big.

i think i'll be waiting a little more and see if microsoft can fix this probelm. coz if they dont, i'd have to go with the ps3. there may be very little games now, but in a few months time, there will be more games.

but i sure hope microsoft pulls their shit together as i would prefer a 360 over a ps3 as long as its 99.9% assurance that it wont break down.

If somebody asked me if they should get an Wii, I would say yes, but be warned, they're isnt alot of quality titles out for the Wii.

Originally posted by Smasandian
If somebody asked me if they should get an Wii, I would say yes, but be warned, they're isnt alot of quality titles out for the Wii.
Quite so, and the graphics for the Wii barely surpass that of the Xbox.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
kinda stupid to quote myself. but i'm not too sure about the 360 now. after doing more research, it would seem that the probability of the 360 breaking down is higher than i thought. its like 1 in 10 units is breaking down and thats about 10%. though i like the console and the games, i dont want to risk of buying a defective unit and a 10% chance of getting one is big.

i think i'll be waiting a little more and see if microsoft can fix this probelm. coz if they dont, i'd have to go with the ps3. there may be very little games now, but in a few months time, there will be more games.

but i sure hope microsoft pulls their shit together as i would prefer a 360 over a ps3 as long as its 99.9% assurance that it wont break down.

Those figures are blown way out of proportion.
Don't know anyone who have had the Red Ring of Death.
10% is just nonsense.

Originally posted by shin_gear
Quite so, and the graphics for the Wii barely surpass that of the Xbox.

I personally dont give a shit about graphics on the basis of buying an system or not.

I want quality games and I havnt touched my Wii in 3 months.

The 360 on the otherhand, I play all the time. Granted, the 360 has been out for awhile so all those games that started development when the 360 was announced are just coming out.

But even though I'm looking at the Wii schedule, only 2 games are coming out that I consider must plays.

I love graphics and if I had a choice, I would want to play Twilight Princess in HD glory and shooters do benefit greatly from an singleplayer point of view with upgraded graphics, but if thats not the case, gameplay is still the most important aspect of what I play.

I'm having a great time with Halo 3 MP and those graphics fail to compare to Gears Of War MP, which I didnt like very much.

Originally posted by Morridini
Those figures are blown way out of proportion.
Don't know anyone who have had the Red Ring of Death.
10% is just nonsense.

there are some articles saying that 1 out of 5 would bog down due to the red ring of death. i think industry standard is around 2-3% and there are reports that defective xbox 360s are around 5-10%. this may not be a large figure when looking at the total number of 360s out there. but here where i live, there are about 5 merchants selling the 360 each with about 3 units in stock. that makes a total of 15 units and 3 of this may potentaily be defective. the 360s and the ps3s price here is inflated beyond reason which is why i have to do some really indept research before i go out and buy a console.

the worst part is, most of the on hand stocks here are old units manufactured las 2006. which is more reason to be extra vigilant.

i feel microsoft has to really address this issue before the holidays as this could deture possible customers from buying the unit this season.

Well they did address it by extending the warranty by three more years, so if it "dies" your warranty is still valid.

Originally posted by Smasandian
If somebody asked me if they should get an Wii, I would say yes, but be warned, they're isnt alot of quality titles out for the Wii.

Yes, the Wii's release schedule has been anaemic. Luckily I never had a Gamecube so it has been sustained for me by going through that back catalogue, but I do hope Nintendo shapes up next year.

Obviously the release of three big games in the last third of this year is helpful, and it's still a blast as a party machine.

Originally posted by Morridini
Well they did address it by extending the warranty by three more years, so if it "dies" your warranty is still valid.

What they should be doing, though, is redesigning the inside of it so that it doesn't overheat and cause the chips to come lose and then cause the red rings...

Yeah of course, increasing warrenty isn't enough, but at least it is something

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, the Wii's release schedule has been anaemic. Luckily I never had a Gamecube so it has been sustained for me by going through that back catalogue, but I do hope Nintendo shapes up next year.

Obviously the release of three big games in the last third of this year is helpful, and it's still a blast as a party machine.

Yeah, mine is just a virtual console machine for me until Super Mario Galaxy comes out. 😛

I kinda went med at the VC now and downloaded Super Mario 64, Zelda Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past and Paper Mario. That should lessen the wait time for Super Smash Bros Brawl.

Originally posted by Morridini
Those figures are blown way out of proportion.
Don't know anyone who have had the Red Ring of Death.
10% is just nonsense.

then in that case you'd be kidding yourself.

the ring of death it's really that bad. I remember, before ever knowing about the problem, that my friend's 360 once had a red light in the power ring and I ask him what it was and he didn't know, then we knew that it was an internal problem with the console... (not to mention that his disk were so damn scratched for no apparent reason... 😆 )

he did the smart thing and got rid of the unit (he sent it back to his brother in the US) and got himself a new one, avoid any kind of modding, and has a brand new unit (about 6 moths ago), and hasn't had any problems since.

the problem exists, and there's a high probability of getting it (anything higher than 5% it's a high number considering how many units that actually means). it it wasn't so much of problem, then Microsoft wouldn't be wasting the kind of many they are to extend the warranty to full 3 years

Like Lana said, what they should be doing it's fixing the problem internally, going back to design and seeing what when wrong and actually fixing it, not just realising a "patch" like they're so accustomed to doing (It is Microsoft after all)

extending the warranty isn't a way to fix the problem, it means "we know with messed up but we rather lie back and give you a 3 years console, rather than a full generation life span (5 years) console"

funny thing it's the 360 it's almost 2 years old, so that means there's 1 year left for it to live (.. for those who purchased the console in it's launch year).... quite pathetic if you ask me.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
there are some articles saying that 1 out of 5 would bog down due to the red ring of death. i think industry standard is around 2-3% and there are reports that defective xbox 360s are around 5-10%. this may not be a large figure when looking at the total number of 360s out there. but here where i live, there are about 5 merchants selling the 360 each with about 3 units in stock. that makes a total of 15 units and 3 of this may potentaily be defective. the 360s and the ps3s price here is inflated beyond reason which is why i have to do some really indept research before i go out and buy a console.

the worst part is, most of the on hand stocks here are old units manufactured las 2006. which is more reason to be extra vigilant.

i feel microsoft has to really address this issue before the holidays as this could deture possible customers from buying the unit this season.

I don't know if you already made up your mind or not, but I think you'd be better doing what I did... getting a Wii first ✅

if you care so much about the "ring of death" problem, and the warranty won't apply to you (as I know there are places in which the warranty doesn't apply, like in my case...) then you are better off with a Wii

haven't heard of any problems with it ( besides Wii-ing with your TV, I mean breaking your TV with the wiimote), and Nintendo does make quality products so they don't need more than 90 days warranty (by quality I mean that I wont break... I still hate N64)

besides it'll cost you much cheaper than PS3 or a 360

I think you have about the same problem as I do: down here the 360 cost about 500$ (that's the core version) and the Wii costs 580$ (insane isnt it?), the PS3 it's about a whooping 850$. (+ or -50, depending on the store)
I outsmarted resellers, and got my Wii in the US (Toys"R"Us) and only paid 250 for it (plus 23$ taxes)

now if you take into consideration how much it'll cost you to upgrade your 360 to match the quality of the PS3 (not talking about games here) it'll cost you a lot more than the PS3.

the only modding that I would recommend doing to the 360 (though it's not modding per se) its getting a really good cooling system for it. that'll help you avoid the 3 red lights as much as possible. If you installed a mod chip (to play back ups) then you wouldnt be able to use XBOXlive, since your 360 would be banned for life.... but if you don't care so much about online (like I do) then a modchip wouldnt be a problem...(you'll only need the Core version and you'd be good to go.. if your lucky enough to never had the ring of death problem)

but you don't have to worry about any of those problems with a PS3... you get most of what you need just by buying the console (it wont break). The only problem you'll have (and that's the one that hurts the most) it's the lack of games 🙁
In my case MGS4, Ratchet & Clank and FFXIII are reason enough for getting a PS3 ✅... and there's also God of War, Tekken, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Resistance..... and 😕 Lair 😆 (it's good once you get used to the Sixaxis)

... not to mention the Blueray player that comes with it

..but if you got money to spare, get all three of them!.
if you don't like your PS3 you can always sell it or trade it for a new 360 to replace your other dead 360 😆... the Wii could just sit pretty next to the TV

I already have my Wii and I’m quite happy with it (though I’ve only got 3 games for it), now all I need its a PS3, which I'd be getting by the end of next year (2008) or early 09. (regardless of it being the loser of this gen war)

the only way I'll ever get a 360 it's:
- if I get one for free 😄
- if Microsoft warranty it's fully cover down here
- if Microsoft assures me ( or everybody) that the console has been redesigned and wont break... unless I break it by smashing it to pieces

I dont lose sleep over its games cuz I could/can get most (if not all) of its games for my PC

Originally posted by AstroFan
Yeah, mine is just a virtual console machine for me until S[b]uper Mario Galaxy comes out. 😛 [/B]

😂 nice emphasis there. We spotted that the other day at work when putting up posters 😛

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, the Wii's release schedule has been anaemic. Luckily I never had a Gamecube so it has been sustained for me by going through that back catalogue, but I do hope Nintendo shapes up next year.

Obviously the release of three big games in the last third of this year is helpful, and it's still a blast as a party machine.

I did have an Gamecube, and I basically traded all my games for cash. Even if I didnt, I still wouldnt play it.

I might be mistaken but is the Wii's lineup worse than Gamecube's lineup at this point in their respective console cycles?

It's still a fun machine, but I rarely play with people as a party machine because all my friends dont play videogames and after thier first playthrough on Wii Sports, they're done. So I'm looking at it as a single player type of guy and well, there's nothing. I havnt played Metriod Prime and I'm going to wait till next summer during the summer drought to play it.