Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Started by Smasandian507 pages

MS is going to release a Blu Ray player in the future.

They said they dont really care about the format war and will make a player for the eventual winner. It's Blu Ray, so the will release a player for the 360.

In the end, I couldnt care less. I still like DVD and that will probably still be the norm for years to come.

Originally posted by Smasandian
MS is going to release a Blu Ray player in the future.

They said they dont really care about the format war and will make a player for the eventual winner. It's Blu Ray, so the will release a player for the 360.

In the end, I couldnt care less. I still like DVD and that will probably still be the norm for years to come.

I think it would be a bad idea for them.... I mean, surely they could released one, but how much would that cost? I they can't keep it under 149$, they shouldn't even think about it

Originally posted by S_D_J
but what will happen in the years to come?

is true not everybody cares about HD (Wii does fine without it), but HDTV's are becoming cheaper by the minute, BR will now be the standard, just like the DVD are nowadays (unless another format tries to emerge).

is not about Gamers at this point... Wii clearly attest to that. who's to say people won't buy a PS3 just to have the technology (there are ppl like that)... a logical purchase since is the cheapest and best BR player out there.
The new standard has been set, I think the device that's (let's be honest) responsible for it's so called success will capitalize on it

it might not make PS3 beat the Wii on sales, but it will definitely improve said sales. It might not happen right away, but the PS3 is only a year old... and a couple of years, things will not be the way they're now (I mean the standard for home entertainment)

... unless, of course, SONY shoot themselves on the foot yet again, and release a better (cheaper) BlueRay player....

and if it weren't all that important, MS wouldn't be considering a BR add-on, would they?

about sales: it doesn't make much difference the numbers the consoles sales make these months (they are not that far apart to tell which one sells best), but I don't see people being coerced into buying one or the other, if they want one that's out of stock, they should wait instead of taking the one covered in dust just so they won't leave empty handed....

because the reason BR beat HD-DVD is the PS3... 😕

though the PS3 was hurt by it

The 360 is better, the PS3 could have been the best but sony well...

Originally posted by S_D_J
I think it would be a bad idea for them.... I mean, surely they could released one, but how much would that cost? I they can't keep it under 149$, they shouldn't even think about it

Why would it be a bad idea for them? It's not as though people will be forced to buy it, and it's freaking Microsoft. That company has an insane amount of money to toss around.

Originally posted by S_D_J
but what will happen in the years to come?

is true not everybody cares about HD (Wii does fine without it), but HDTV's are becoming cheaper by the minute, BR will now be the standard, just like the DVD are nowadays (unless another format tries to emerge).

is not about Gamers at this point... Wii clearly attest to that. who's to say people won't buy a PS3 just to have the technology (there are ppl like that)... a logical purchase since is the cheapest and best BR player out there.
The new standard has been set, I think the device that's (let's be honest) responsible for it's so called success will capitalize on it

it might not make PS3 beat the Wii on sales, but it will definitely improve said sales. It might not happen right away, but the PS3 is only a year old... and a couple of years, things will not be the way they're now (I mean the standard for home entertainment)

... unless, of course, SONY shoot themselves on the foot yet again, and release a better (cheaper) BlueRay player....

and if it weren't all that important, MS wouldn't be considering a BR add-on, would they?

about sales: it doesn't make much difference the numbers the consoles sales make these months (they are not that far apart to tell which one sells best), but I don't see people being coerced into buying one or the other, if they want one that's out of stock, they should wait instead of taking the one covered in dust just so they won't leave empty handed....

because the reason BR beat HD-DVD is the PS3... 😕

though the PS3 was hurt by it

No, I would disagree, it's about the games and I don't think Blu-ray will be near the massive library which took DVD years to achieve. Foreign, independent upcoming movies, tv shows, kids, etc....is not the boat for Blu-ray.

Blu-ray have won the format war and now they have to survive agaisn't things like downloading or even HVD. Which aren't not too far away. DVD began in the 90s and it took a long way before it became a house hold name.

Now, MS thinking of joining the Blu-ray format? True, it's where they're going. However, they made the right decision by not sticking a HD DVD into the 360. That paid off for MS as well. Now they can jump to the Blu-ray camp IF that's what their buyers really want.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No, I would disagree, it's about the games and I don't think Blu-ray will be near the massive library which took DVD years to achieve.

At last the truth.

To each his own... only time will tell what happens to the format.

but IMHO saying that BR won't help boost PS3 sales is not realistic, it might not be much, but it will help

Originally posted by Lana
Why would it be a bad idea for them? It's not as though people will be forced to buy it, and it's freaking Microsoft. That company has an insane amount of money to toss around.

True that

I just think is a bad idea at the moment, for their business, I don't think that many people will buy it since it'd be expensive IMO, but if they do, who's to stop them... hopefully they could keep under 150

Originally posted by Lana
Why would it be a bad idea for them? It's not as though people will be forced to buy it, and it's freaking Microsoft. That company has an insane amount of money to toss around.

I also think its a great idea.

If you want to have an Blu Ray, then pick up the player so you can watch HD movies (if thats your thing)

If you dont, well, it aint a problem because you dont have to buy it.

If the player has the same features, and looks just as good as the regular Blu Ray standalone players, then its a great thing.

They'll make thier money regardless.

Originally posted by S_D_J
To each his own... only time will tell what happens to the format.

but IMHO saying that BR won't help boost PS3 sales is not realistic, it might not be much, but it will help

True that

I just think is a bad idea at the moment, for their business, I don't think that many people will buy it since it'd be expensive IMO, but if they do, who's to stop them... hopefully they could keep under 150

And I don't understand why it would be bad for their business. People who don't want to buy it won't have to, and it'll be available for those who already have a 360 but don't want to spend the money on a PS3 or a different blu-ray player. It'd be nothing but good for their business.

It seems this topic is rather shaky on both ends of the scale.

Originally posted by Lana
And I don't understand why it would be bad for their business. People who don't want to buy it won't have to, and it'll be available for those who already have a 360 but don't want to spend the money on a PS3 or a different blu-ray player. It'd be nothing but good for their business.

It's just my opinion. Whether they deem it profitable or not it's up to them.
...and whether people will think it's worth it, given how expensive the technology is...
If they can keep around 150, kudos for MS

I'm saying this cuz I've read about people already complaining on it's speculated price, and how they will think twice before buying an 200+ add-on... BR isn't as cheap as HD-DVD

IMHO

But there is probably people out there who would pay $200 to get a functional Blu Ray player.

I would.

the thing that was big for PS2 in 2000 and 2001, is that it was a cheap dvd player for college kids, and others.

Obviosly that is still part of their buisness plan with PS3.

It gives a cheap blu-ray player to college kids, assuming they have a nice tv too.

The only problem I see what that business plan is that the difference between DVD and VHS was huge compared to the difference between Blu Ray and DVD.

There is a difference but not enough to warrent a purchase right now. Sometimes, I dont want to see a movie in HD.

I think it's the 'nice tv' thing that OB1 mentions that really outlines that difference. Anyone could buy and use a PS2 as a DVD player, but despite their increasing availability, low ownership of HD televisons as the norm is a barrier to many using the PS3 as a player.

That said, I do suspect Sony are actually also targeting the same people that brought the PS2 last time. I don't mean the same demographic, I mean the same PEOPLE, who are now older and more affluent.

Originally posted by S_D_J
It's just my opinion. Whether they deem it profitable or not it's up to them.
...and whether people will think it's worth it, given how expensive the technology is...
If they can keep around 150, kudos for MS

I'm saying this cuz I've read about people already complaining on it's speculated price, and how they will think twice before buying an 200+ add-on... BR isn't as cheap as HD-DVD

IMHO

Ive seen Bluray players as low as $300, so I could see the 360 add on being half that, or close to it. As far as the actual movies go, Bluray movies are cheaper a lot of the time, HD insisted on those shitty dual format disc which usually made the movie more expensive than Bluray.

Looking back, I think PS including the Bluray was a bad movie for the PS3, but great for the Bluray format. I still think it makes the PS3 too expensive for most people, especially with standard tvs.

So many fanboys on IGN have been saying that this will bring down Xbox sales and bring up PS3 sales, but Xbox did the smart move by not including a HD player in the box, all they need to do now is make a blu ray add on. And if they do that, it'd probably be cheap, considering they'd now be directly competing with PS3. Xbox hasnt lost anything with hd dvd dying off. Imagine if blu ray lost, how screwed would every PS3 owner be right now?

Wonder if MS will offer a refund for anyone who bought a hd dvd add on?

😄

I just saw, on the news, that the Spanish Costumers Union (UCE) is advising consumers to return HD-DVD's players and demand a full refund

according to the Spanish legislation, they have the right to make such demand, or so I gather

TOSHIBA, of course, had said that no refunds will be make.

http://www.europapress.es/00136/20080219124111/economia-empresas-uce-cree-retirada-hd-dvd-motivo-reclamar-devolucion-importe-compensacion.html
http://www.soitu.es/soitu/2008/02/18/vidadigital/1203355770_653112.html
http://www.facua.org/es/noticia.php?Id=2752
(links are in Spanish)

That's kind of stupid. That's a risk you run in buying into technology at such an early stage - it's a bet. There's nothing WRONG with HD-DVDs, and there is a fair amount of stuff on them.

But looking for a refund because you bought a player for what turned out to be the losing format is like demanding your money back when you place a bet and lose (which pretty much is what happened).

Nope, I think that is completely and totally ridiculous.

I think it's hilarious...

... but I agree, It's ridiculous and stupid.