Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Started by Peach507 pages

Originally posted by xNIXSONx
im not going to try any last resorts. ive already defended my perspective plenty of times before. there are plenty of great games on ps3 that you can either enjoy or completely ignore. your choice.

occultdestroyer, i gotta kinda agree with. the two mods here, do really come across as biased.

hope u finish fable in 2 days btw

Yeah, there's plenty of great games on the PS3.

Problem is, they're almost all available on the 360 as well.

It's difficult to call those who have actual facts to back up their position biased, really.

Does anyone know if the new 360 dashboard upgrade is free?

Originally posted by MIŠT
Does anyone know if the new 360 dashboard upgrade is free?

The mandatory NXE upgrade? Yes, it's free.

Sweet, do you need a Gold account? (I only have silver...weep)

I'd doubt it. Considering that it's kinda, you know, mandatory 😛

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Wow. Just wow.
You are two of the most NARROW-MINDED, BIASED MODS I have ever encountered in a forum. EVER.
lol ok...lets have a look at this particular quote for a moment shall we?

example of narrow mindedness -

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Easier said than done.
You can't just pull games out of your ass, you know.
Heck, many games released for the PS2 took years before it's release.
ie. God of War took about 8 years before it was released for the PS2.

you're ignoring the fact that the wii and 360 are recieving great games at a much faster rate than the ps3 ever has, choosing only the evidence that suits your delusions..

example of bias -

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The crappy graphics, gameplay, and title (The Conduit.. seriously 🤨 ) points out the obvious; it's from a Wii.

you're basing this on off a gameplay video of a game that wont be released for some time, giving developers time to improve the already above par graphics, that have been compared to the graphics of the xbox 360..not only is this bias, its completely false..you cant say shit about the gameplay, because a - it can change, and b - you havent played the damn game yet, so you're in no position to judge..the people who have ACTUALLY SEEN and PLAYED the game say the complete oposite of what you have said in their reviews/previews..who are people gonna be convinced by - people who have evidence, or 1 guy who has a gameplay video that probably has shoddy quality anyay?
the title has nothing to do with how good or bad a game is..look at the name "wii" - a far less popular title than "revolution", but the name did jack shit to affect the wii's phenominal sales
and yes, exactly..its on the wii, a great system that only a short while ago was outselling the PS3, 360, PS2 and PSP combined 😬

the only person here who can be accused of narrow mindedness and bias is you, so either admit that you're wong or kindly stop posting before you dig yourself deeper..

Originally posted by xNIXSONx
im not going to try any last resorts. ive already defended my perspective plenty of times before. there are plenty of great games on ps3 that you can either enjoy or completely ignore. your choice.

occultdestroyer, i gotta kinda agree with. the two mods here, do really come across as biased.


QFT.
I have no idea why these mods keep defending Wii.
Wii even has a smaller game library than the PS3.
And the quality of the games + gameplay is so-so.
You could only count stand-out game titles in one hand.

Originally posted by General Kaliero

Also note that in this discussion, we're not participating as mods, we're participating as forum members. If you to get deliberately insulting, that's when we'd act in the capacity of moderators.

You are in this forum to be moderators.
It's your job to keep the forum in order, not bash a product and claim one product is better than the other, like what you are doing with the Wii.
You can, of course, express your opinions about a product
But the way you and Peach talk, it seems you are bashing the PS3.
That's pretty one-sided IMO.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Also, I'd say it is you who is proving to be narrow-minded, as you refuse to even consider the facts that disagree with your personal point of view. [/B]

With this post, not only have you proven to me that you are narrow-mind and biased. You are hypocritical as well.

Whoa there- all you are doing there is using their status as mods as a means of attacking them. This I will not allow. There is absolutely no truth at all to your implication that they are using their mod status to abusively debate. It also speaks exceptionally poorly of your argument that you stop trying to argue facts- which you have not been presenting very well because frankly no-one is convinced- and start making childish excuses about mod bias. Sorry, but it's pretty clea rthat you are bign, by far, the most selective and narrow minded participant in this debate.

There is absolutely no reason at all why the mods cannot bash any system they choose- they take part in the debate as poisters like anyone else.

If you continue to attack them on that line it will be treated as flaming and you will be warned.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
QFT.
I have no idea why these mods keep defending Wii.
Wii even has a smaller game library than the PS3.
And the quality of the games + gameplay is so-so.
You could only count stand-out game titles in one hand.

Actually, we really are discussing the PS3's shortcomings more than the Wii. I certainly haven't said anything about it in a while; I don't even own one, as I know I've said many times.

However, let's look at things.

Sales-wise, the Wii is dominating by a large margin. It was sold out for ages at launch. It has remained scarce to find until only a couple of months ago. It is starting to become harder to find again. It has sold the most systems of any of the current consoles, and has yet to reach any sort of sales plateau. It still sells for a large amount online.

Meanwhile, the PS3 sold strongly at launch. It went on ebay for double the price it cost. It was very difficult to find. For about a week or two. Sales very quickly dropped and it became very easy to find. It got poor reviews. Most people who've bought it have flat-out stated they got it because it was a decent blu-ray player. The system finally starts to pick up on sales and get better reviews when Sony cuts the prices, though this also has the backlash effect of confusing and angering consumers, because of the removal of backwards compatibility, and the fact that Sony has never actually officially said what any of the features the new versions have (or don't). Every time sales drop again, they discontinue whatever model is out and release a new one.

They do this because they are still selling on a huge loss with this system, and are not making enough sales in games to make up any of this loss. And the majority of people who buy the PS3 don't ever even play games on it.

Also, I'm not really sure, as all I can find is lists and I don't feel like counting each individual game, but I'm pretty sure the Wii does have a larger library. If you include VC, then it most definitely does.

Gameplay quality is down to the developers. Nintendo's first-party games have always been known for being excellent in every way. Sony really rides more on their third-party developers than anything else. And I'm sure that the number of actual stand-out titles on the PS3 can also be counted with one hand.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
You are in this forum to be moderators.
It's your job to keep the forum in order, not bash a product and claim one product is better than the other, like what you are doing with the Wii.
You can, of course, express your opinions about a product
But the way you and Peach talk, it seems you are bashing the PS3.
That's pretty one-sided IMO.

Erm, no. While it is true that we are the moderators of this forum, that does not mean that we are not allowed to discuss things as regular posters do. In fact you'll notice it's very, very clear when we are posting as mods, as opposed to posting as a regular person. We are allowed to take part in any debates we want, taking whatever side we want.

And we have every right to discuss the fact that, despite technology, the PS3 is showing to be an inferior system. We've got every right to express that opinion, especially when cold hard fact backs it up. And we have every right to point out the holes in the arguments you come up with.

This isn't a full-time, 24 hour a day job. We only put on the modhats when people do things that require us to do so.

And how is it any more one-sided than the comments you make? Especially considering the fact that you don't have any facts to back them up?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
With this post, not only have you proven to me that you are narrow-mind and biased. You are hypocritical as well.

Maybe if you guys had actually presented any facts, instead of just making baseless claims and stating things that are flat out untrue, you might be able to say this. However, it's not the case. It's more a case of people bringing up facts and you going "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING!"

Originally posted by Ushgarak

If you continue to attack them on that line it will be treated as flaming and you will be warned.

Well, who took the first jab?
Please re-read the previous pages and take a look.

They attacked me after I said the PS3 is better than the Wii and 360.
That's my opinion, not theirs.
They have no right whatsoever to bash me because my opinion differs from theirs.

If they want to bash the PS3, they should do it in a more civil manner.
And I don't care if they are mods.
If they take part in the debate, they too should get banned if need be.

For me, PS3 > other current-gen consoles. Because I have seen these machines go to work. And PS3 has excelled in ALMOST everything in my perspective.

No one attacked you.

Pointed out that your arguments and points were ridiculous and baseless, yes. But never actually attacked you personally. And in fact the only one who has come close to something like a personal attack is you, by attacking our status as mods.

There is a big difference between attacking the argument and attacking the arguer. We've only done the former and stayed perfectly civil about it.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Well, who took the first jab?
Please re-read the previous pages and take a look.

They attacked me after I said the PS3 is better than the Wii and 360.
That's my opinion, not theirs.
They have no right whatsoever to bash me because my opinion differs from theirs.

If they want to bash the PS3, they should do it in a more civil manner.
And I don't care if they are mods.
If they take part in the debate, they too should get banned if need be.

For me, PS3 > other current-gen consoles. Because I have seen these machines go to work. And PS3 has excelled in ALMOST everything in my perspective.

I've read the posts. There's debating, there's pointing out fallacies, and there is simple flaming irrelevant to the argument, as you using their mod status as a means to attack them was.

This is not up for debate. Simply cut it out.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I've read the posts. There's debating, there's pointing out fallacies, and there is simple flaming irrelevant to the argument, as you using their mod status as a means to attack them was.

This is not up for debate. Simply cut it out.


Fine. Whatver you say.
ahah

I'm getting a PS3 around the holiday season, and I was looking to hear some feedback about the PS3 from some people who have it. What are the ups and downs of the system?

Read the last three pages.

The PS3 doesn't have many good exclusives (But it will!), it's graphics are for the most part not superior the 360's (But they can be!), and it's biggest plus is an online feature that isn't as good as the Xbox's (It might be!), a BLU-RAY player that is cheaper elswhere (An investment!).

So, yeah.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Read the last three pages.

The PS3 doesn't have many good exclusives (But it will!), it's graphics are for the most part not superior the 360's (But they can be!), and it's biggest plus is an online feature that isn't as good as the Xbox's (It might be!), a BLU-RAY player that is cheaper elswhere (An investment!).

So, yeah.

So You love it then huh?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Well, who took the first jab?
Please re-read the previous pages and take a look.

They attacked me after I said the PS3 is better than the Wii and 360.
That's my opinion, not theirs.
They have no right whatsoever to bash me because my opinion differs from theirs.

If they want to bash the PS3, they should do it in a more civil manner.
And I don't care if they are mods.
If they take part in the debate, they too should get banned if need be.

For me, PS3 > other current-gen consoles. Because I have seen these machines go to work. And PS3 has excelled in ALMOST everything in my perspective.

With two "Nintendo fanboys" as your mods you really don't expect to be attacked? Really...

What a brainless comment! Lana does not even own a Wii- though even if she did, that is in no way a worthwhile contribution to the thread and is basically a troll/flame. Don;t do that again, Nac.

Originally posted by Quincy
So You love it then huh?

It's my favorite of the three.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
What a brainless comment! Lana does not even own a Wii- though even if she did, that is in no way a worthwhile contribution to the thread and is basically a troll/flame. Don;t do that again, Nac.

There are plenty of things i dont own but am a fanboy of 😉